Originally posted by srankmissingninhe is too.. old bio's say so and i know he isnt a match for Wrecker b.c Wrecker is actually depicted above his weight class...
Hogun isn't class 50 and he isn't a match for the Wrecker.
but i dont recall Luke being that strong either, i thought he was a 25 to 35 tops.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That's a nice story but the reality is he thought DD was a demon and leveled a car with his attacks. He was trying at the beginning and then DD started to exhaust himself and Hogun didn't need to go 100% any more.
seriously are you reading correctly? he's not even fighting him. sigh... Hogun was "dazed and disoriented" and was trying to avoid DD and the cops the whole time. DD even mentioned how this guy was so far above him. sigh....
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
To bad there stamina is still inferior to several members of the mutant team. None of the gods even come close to display the level of stamina wolverine has.25-35 tons is not a good thing when dealing with several characters who can and have taken 100 class shots and kept on fighting.
For all there experience there not even as skilled as the least skilled mutant member........
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
seriously are you reading correctly? he's not even fighting him. sigh... Hogun was "dazed and disoriented" and was trying to avoid DD and the cops the whole time. DD even mentioned how this guy was so far above him. sigh....
Well this is the reason he was dazed and disoriented.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Just out of curiosity how do you suppose Wolverine will be able to keep fighting when someone drops a +100 ton boulder on him? The adamantium would keep him from being crushed but he is nowhere near strong enough to lift the boulder to free himself. Being hit with and surviving a +100 ton punch is considerably different than being immobilized by a +100 ton rock. It's pretty damn hard to cut your way out when you can't move your arms.
It would take just about everyone on the Asgardian team to pick up a boulder that large, and where the hell would they get the rock from anyway? Oh, and let's not forget that Wolverine routinely dances around bullets, dodging a rock wouldn't be too hard.
Originally posted by KingD19
It would take just about everyone on the Asgardian team to pick up a boulder that large, and where the hell would they get the rock from anyway? Oh, and let's not forget that Wolverine routinely dances around bullets, dodging a rock wouldn't be too hard.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Okay, maybe a +100 ton boulder is a bit of an exaggeration. I can admit that, but change it to a 10 ton boulder and he is equally as screwed.
Also it a featureless environment which is the default setting. So no they wont be.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
to dodge a rock that has been thrown faster than a bullet, which is easily within the powers of almost any Asgardian, especially when you're surrounded on all sides by a group pf pissed off Vikings. it
Lets for sake there 50 tons which is being extremely generous. !0 tons with be a fifth of there strength. And you think they can throw that faster then a bullet are you fing kidding me...........
A pro base ball pitcher who can bench 250 pounds or more can't throw a pace ball that weights 5.25 ounce any were near the speed of the slowest guns and base ball is much less then 250th of there weight. So maybe you might want to re think your statements a little more.
also why do you assume there surrounded and on all sides for that matter when there out number.......and thats not how the fight starts......
honestly come on think this through little more your statements just down right outrageous.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
10 ton chunk of magnetite (yes that is an actual rock) and it doesn't even need to land on him. The magnetic force would turn him into the worlds coolest refrigerator magnet. After the muties biggest threat it neutralized the rest is academic.
Yes so now they just so happen have this special rock on them.....honestly THINK before you state absurd arguements.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17average-high end asgardian is 75 tonner if I remember correctly.
These gods wield "godly" blades.. They have stamina that enables them to fight for a vry long time, strength ranging 25-35 tons, and have weapon and fighting skills honed through thousands of years of battles. It's not that easy for the mutants.
Team Mutants
For several reasons, mainly because I think this team is far more tactical when it comes to combat. Sure, the gods are very well rounded(fast, strong...the works), but all that won't matter if they lack the strategy to utilize it.
As you know, Wolverine, X-23, and Warpath are no strangers to working together, so they instantly have the chemistry down. The following is one possible scenario I've come up with, to help explain the reasoning behind my assumption:
Wolvey, X-23, and Warpath stick together while Sabertooth scoffs at them and tries to do things his own way, while Deadpool cracks a situational joke and starts using pick up lines on Valkyrie while continuously teleporting around her as she pointlessly tries to look for the ko(she's not happy at this point).
Sabretooth gets his ass handed to him in a basket and a moral compromise ensues as a result of Wolverine and the rest of the team's urges--thus the divided faction molds into one, united team with a common cause😖urvive.
At this point, the team realize that they need to think of something, and quick. To buy some time, Wolverine, assuming the role of squad leader, directs Deadpool to drop down some suppressive fire (in the form of grenades), temporarily blocking the gods' line of sight. Like I said before, the Mutants are far more tactically and strategically superior to their godly opponents. Their best option, when it comes down to taking out a god, is to concentrate and overwhealm one at a time. Like I said, they're very well rounded, but even gods of their magnitude cannot overcome the combined might of 5 mutants of such caliber.
Realizing each others' assets and what their unique abilities can bring forth to the table, the team quickly dispatch Deadpool(who takes up a supporting role) to come out of cover and continuously pester the gods via using a hit and teleport technique which further enrages Valkyrie. Step 2 for the mutants is to have their "muscle" (Warpath and Sabretooth) use their combined might to grapple and essentially hold down one god at a time while Wolverine and X-23 deliver the fatal, finishing blows. As long as the blades can penetrate, it's over and done with. Not even the Warrior's Three can regenerate lost limbs or organs, so they needn't worry about them coming back for round two.
Fandral(whom the team see as the biggest threat) is called out by Sabretooth, who takes advantage of Fendor's honorable nature and challenges him to a 1 on 1 battle. Of course, Sabretooth has no intention of taking him on his own and the team initiate step 2(Warpath comes out and assists Sabretooth in subdoing/grabbing Fendor, while Wolverine and X-23 puncture, slice and dice.) Due to the nature of Fandrals impressive peripheral vision, he has great ability when it comes to seeing multiple strikes coming at him simultaneously during a battle with numerous foes. But in my opinion, Sabretooth could always gauge Fendor's eyes, seeing as he has an unconventional, dirty fighting style. Of course, he doesn't really know a thing about Fendor, so that wouldn't cross his mind.
If the mutants manage to take Fendor down, than it's time to isolate the next god. Deadpool creates a smoke haze by blasting the ground with his grenades. Sabretooth uses his keen sense of smell to locate and isolate his next target, and again repeats the process of step 2 until the Warrior's Three have been eliminated and only Valkyrie remains. By now, Deadpool has been knocked out about 17 times(11 of which were probably Valkyrie) but always manages to recover quick enough to not retract the gods attention from him.
Conclusion:
Valkyrie(who assumed her counterparts were off battling the other mutants), is the last god remaining. She looks around, only to see she is outnumbered 5 to 1. Deadpool confidently makes a proposal something to the nature of: if they went out on a date, she'd be spared. Valkrie, who'd rather die than spend another second listening to Deadpool, slits her own throat. The end 😆 😂 😎
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
IIRC, the Warriors Three, Balder etc. in their latest bio are class 50's. The regular Asgardian is only at 35 tons.
I believe the normal Asgardian male can do about 30 tons. Hogun is a little bit above that while Fandral is around the normal levels. Fandral however is faster than most Asgardians. Volstagg should be strongest of the three. He is at the higher levels of class 50. Valkyrie is around class 50. She is much stronger than the average Asgardian female. I don't remember where I read this from. meh....
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Pretty much how most fights with Hulk and other bricks should go for Wolverine.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Love that fact you leave the context out that it took two people to accomplish that and out of several fights with them they only accomplished that once.......and again the entire event assume there is such objects around which there isn't and that it a likely strategy from these guys which it aint.
Love what facts out of context? That it takes two Hulk's to drop something like that on Wolverine? The only way Logan would avoid such a thing would be in a clear field else Logan would be eating cars and buildings on him from Hulk. One thunder clap followed by a truck on him and that overrated mutant would be no threat to Hulk at all.