Originally posted by Esau Cairn
You gotta seriously take into account just how heavy & bulky Keaton's Bat costume was.Keaton could only walk stiffly in it, not run. He couldn't crouch at all & could only kick stiff legged. And lastly let's not forget the dude couldn't turn his head either.
In my opinion he played a bloody good Batman regardless of all the restrictions he was handicapped by.
Actually, Keaton wasn't in costume for most of the time (during the action scenes). But I still agree that he played a good Batman.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I feel it should be pointed out that Clooney is in every way a great actor in his own right. Just wasn't the right kind of guy who should've been hired to play Batman..
he is ugly as hell so no way in hell should he have been hired. 😆
his looks for the party were even MORE so wrong than keatons were. 😆 😂 🤣
Originally posted by Mr Parker
he is ugly as hell so no way in hell should he have been hired. 😆his looks for the party were even MORE so wrong than keatons were. 😆 😂 🤣
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
How is Clooney ugly?
Originally posted by -Pr-Seriously, 3 dudes debating another dude's looks. ermm
he's not.
I may have to close and bin this thread now! sneer
Eh, just saying.. I know some rather ugly folks/actors when I see them (regardless of gender), and Clooney certainly ain't one of them. No homo.
They could've at least tried to make him look remotely more like Bruce Wayne though (which in turn might've made up for the bat nipples and what not), but I guess that would've been asking too much out of the Batman & Robin movie wouldn't it?
Originally posted by spidermanrocks
Actually, Keaton wasn't in costume for most of the time (during the action scenes). But I still agree that he played a good Batman.
True, I understand about the various stunt doubles used in all the Batman movies.
I also think Bale is on par to Keaton's Batman...but as bulky a costume Keaton had, I think Bale's costume was a bit flimsy at times.
I hated the thin-ness of Bale's costume around the neck. Yeah it enabled him to turn his head side to side but it also made him look like he had a huge bubble head in some scenes.
In TDK, as dramatic as Batman interrogating the Joker was meant to be, I just couldn't take it seriously because of Bat's huge head in the close-ups.
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeTake it easy. I was joking. durfist
Eh, just saying.. I know some rather ugly folks/actors when I see them (regardless of gender), and Clooney certainly ain't one of them. No homo.They could've at least tried to make him look remotely more like Bruce Wayne though (which in turn might've made up for the bat nipples and what not), but I guess that would've been asking too much out of the Batman & Robin movie wouldn't it?
Originally posted by -Pr-Orly? sneer
I guarantee you if i looked hard enough, i'd find a post of yours that was much worse.
Maybe it's time I go to the Superman forum then! osheet
biscuits
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
True, I understand about the various stunt doubles used in all the Batman movies.I also think Bale is on par to Keaton's Batman...but as bulky a costume Keaton had, I think Bale's costume was a bit flimsy at times.
I hated the thin-ness of Bale's costume around the neck. Yeah it enabled him to turn his head side to side but it also made him look like he had a huge bubble head in some scenes.
In TDK, as dramatic as Batman interrogating the Joker was meant to be, I just couldn't take it seriously because of Bat's huge head in the close-ups.
I actually dislike all of the Batman costumes used in live-action except Keaton's. I never liked the Batman costumes in Nolan's films whenever they would be around too much light. However, Batman spent most of his time in the shadows and in other dark areas in the two movies. And the costume looked great in darkness IMO. So even though I didn't like the Batman suits, you can't clearly see them for most of the time because they're mostly in dark areas (where they look good in) so I don't have a problem looking at them. But I do agree that in scenes such as the interrogation scene, the costume didn't look good due to so much light turned on in that room.
Originally posted by spidermanrocks
I actually dislike all of the Batman costumes used in live-action except Keaton's. I never liked the Batman costumes in Nolan's films whenever they would be around too much light. However, Batman spent most of his time in the shadows and in other dark areas in the two movies. And the costume looked great in darkness IMO. So even though I didn't like the Batman suits, you can't clearly see them for most of the time because they're mostly in dark areas (where they look good in) so I don't have a problem looking at them. But I do agree that in scenes such as the interrogation scene, the costume didn't look good due to so much light turned on in that room.
Yeah the real problem I had with TDK was that Batman appeared too much in well lighted scenes namely the bank vault, Wayne's party for Harvey then the interrogation room with the Joker.
And to top it off Bruce doing re-con James Bond style in Hong Kong. Then investigating the building to find all the cops that were tied up with their uniforms stolen...it was a scene that was clearly off character for Bruce Wayne to do.
I really had a problem with TDK & to this day can't bring myself to watch it again.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Keaton was my favourite Batman. And his look pacticularly looked spot on.
Kilmer was a good Bruce. But his and Clooney's Batman were terrible.
Bale's Batman is a gritty realistic version. His voice made sense because people would be able to voice track him otherwise. I always laughed at the other Batmen having the exact same voice as Bruce.But Keaton's Batman knew when to shutup when kicking ass.
Pretty much.
I also want to say Burton captured Gotham better than Nolan.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Yeah the real problem I had with TDK was that Batman appeared too much in well lighted scenes namely the bank vault, Wayne's party for Harvey then the interrogation room with the Joker.And to top it off Bruce doing re-con James Bond style in Hong Kong. Then investigating the building to find all the cops that were tied up with their uniforms stolen...it was a scene that was clearly off character for Bruce Wayne to do.
I really had a problem with TDK & to this day can't bring myself to watch it again.
Actually, the Hong Kong scene was important to the story for 2 reasons:
1) It establishes the cellphone sonar thing which comes into play later in the movie.
2) It is there to show that Batman will always get the criminals that the cops of Gotham can't. It is there to make the mob in Gotham fear Batman even more.
I know what you mean. When I first saw the movie, I also found that scene stupid. But I've come to accept it since I understand that Bruce can't go out as Batman during daylight.