"Goldilocks zone" argument shattered.

Started by inimalist3 pages
Originally posted by menokokoro
I may come back later to elaborate...

/holds breath

Originally posted by menokokoro
Your ignorance is too much for me to argue with right now, I may come back later to elaborate...

Clever retort. Such articulate debating.

Well, everyone has bad days once in awhile. lol

Originally posted by ares834
Never heard of the "Goldilock Zone argument" before. But common sense would dictate that there are billions of planets out there suitable for life.
Not really...common sense makes no statements about suitable planets for life....

Originally posted by Deja~vu
It's so strange to think that with all the billions of galaxies with solar systems that might contain life, that only our planet is the evil one that needed saving. I wonder what all the other inhabitants of other planets would think if they understood that that little planet earth was penalized forever in a place called hell.

If we're the only sinful planet amongst the millions or billions of others, did they have no need for a savior? Was a different Bible written for them?? Then you have to ask yourself where exactly is Hell anyway to hold such an abundant amount of entities.

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I don't mean that we are the only planet with sin, just the most, and the most horrible sin. That is why Jesus was here, so that God's plan could continue. None of his children are perfect, they all have sinned, and need the atonement, but we are the only planet that would be willing to destroy their savior.

That doesn't mean that we don't have great people either. I forget where it says it, but in a scripture it says "where there is great evil, there is great good." or something to that effect.

Originally posted by inimalist
/holds breath

^And is now dead due to hypoxia.

Originally posted by menokokoro
Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I don't mean that we are the only planet with sin, just the most, and the most horrible sin. That is why Jesus was here, so that God's plan could continue. None of his children are perfect, they all have sinned, and need the atonement, but we are the only planet that would be willing to destroy their savior.
This is...quite a statement.

Originally posted by Mindship
This is...quite a statement.
Yeah...though I did a little more research, and the one who taught me that we were the only planet with enough evil to destroy our savior...was going on a limb when he said that. The scripture he was using for this just said that the people in that part of the world were the only ones evil enough, not the people on this world were the only in all existence evil enough.

Originally posted by menokokoro
Yeah...though I did a little more research, and the one who taught me that we were the only planet with enough evil to destroy our savior...was going on a limb when he said that. The scripture he was using for this just said that the people in that part of the world were the only ones evil enough, not the people on this world were the only in all existence evil enough.

so like a theological version of "the noble savage"?

Originally posted by menokokoro
Yeah...though I did a little more research, and the one who taught me that we were the only planet with enough evil to destroy our savior...was going on a limb when he said that.
Kudos to you for spotting the limb.

It's always good to get to the bottom of things.

Originally posted by inimalist
so like a theological version of "the noble savage"?
I'm not familiar with that.
Originally posted by Mindship
Kudos to you for spotting the limb.
Thank you, though I wasn't being completely honest lol, I was talking to a friend about it, and he showed me the scripture. I still thought it sounded a little odd. People teaching religious classes tend to come up with their own gospel.

Originally posted by menokokoro
Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I don't mean that we are the only planet with sin, just the most, and the most horrible sin. That is why Jesus was here, so that God's plan could continue. None of his children are perfect, they all have sinned, and need the atonement, but we are the only planet that would be willing to destroy their savior.
do you guys believe in original sin?

i don't know what mormons believe... most christians tell me that jesus was necessary to save our souls because humanity is cursed by adam's sin

Originally posted by menokokoro
People teaching religious classes tend to come up with their own gospel.
That's very true. Many interject their own views in the teachings no matter what denomination.

Sometimes people can come up with some real doozies. I've heard a LOT. lol

Originally posted by red g jacks
do you guys believe in original sin?

i don't know what mormons believe... most christians tell me that jesus was necessary to save our souls because humanity is cursed by adam's sin

http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp/a-of-f/1?lang=eng this is a general overview of what "Mormons" believe. In answer to your question look to the second Article of Faith: We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

So, no, we don't believe that Christ was necessary because of Adam's sin. But we do believe that Christs atonement is necessary for us to be able to repent, because he already took those sins upon himself, we simply need to repent.