Elite Heralds vs. Uber Psi's

Team Elite Herald:
Orion
Superman
Thor
Silver Surfer
Green Lantern(Hal)

vs.

Team Uber Psi:
Tangent Superman
Nate Grey
High Evolutionary
Legion (No reality Warping)
Martian Manhunter

This is a no PIS,CIS, or BFR fight. For the sake of fairness Legion cannot use his reality Warping abilities as stated above and has access to all of his shown abilities.

High Evo could potentially solo.

Team psi in an assrape of epic proportion.

I would have thought that people could come up with ways for the heralds to win due to their versatility and genetic manipulation.

superman speed blitz solos team 2

High Evolutionary is generally functionally below herald level, from what I've seen. His one fight against Galactus when super evolved is cool and all, but generally he has trouble with Apocalypse or Adam Warlock or the Hulk.

Team 1. Hal and Orion have already demonstrated a high level of psi resistance (complete immunity to J'onn level psis), Surfer has some good psi resistance feats, Nate Grey has already demonstrated some troubles with Gods (like Orion and Thor), etc.

Originally posted by Desaad
High Evolutionary is generally functionally below herald level, from what I've seen. His one fight against Galactus when super evolved is cool and all, but generally he has trouble with Apocalypse or Adam Warlock or the Hulk.

Team 1. Hal and Orion have already demonstrated a high level of psi resistance (complete immunity to J'onn level psis), Surfer has some good psi resistance feats, Nate Grey has already demonstrated some troubles with Gods (like Orion and Thor), etc.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No he doesn't "generally have trouble" with apoc. His average showings have him above HH.

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Originally posted by Black bolt z
High Evo could potentially solo.

So can a number of characters from either side like Legion, Thor, Orion etc.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No he doesn't "generally have trouble" with apoc. His average showings have him above HH.

😬 How many times does this have to be discussed before you lose this High Evolutionary hard on you have?

Originally posted by Desaad
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So can a number of characters from either side like Legion, Thor, Orion etc.

😬 How many times does this have to be discussed before you lose this High Evolutionary hard on you have?

Whats there to be discussed. Its true. His showings fluctuate majorly but his average showings he is above HH.

i see this as pretty dern close....

Originally posted by Black bolt z
[B]Thats A fight. Not generally...one fight doesn't determine their placement.

Well, it's the only fight we have between the two of them. "Generally" seems about right for that particular matchup, doesn't it?

Regardless, I was saying that he was generally on that level -- that he's generally low herald at best. His battle with the Hulk backs that up. Perhaps he can evolve himsel to a greater degree on occasion, as he did with his battle against Galactus, but from what my experience has been he's a low herald level foe.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thats A fight. Not generally...one fight doesn't determine their placement.

Ironic. You placing him as above High Herald in general is probably based on his highest showing(s). This pedastal some people have him on is silly.

I can name three different instances in Thor appearances alone which discredit this notion of him being above High Herald.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thor or Orion are not soloing 😬. Don't knoe enough about legion though.

Whats there to be discussed. Its true. His showings fluctuate majorly but his average showings he is above HH.

There's a better chance of them doing it than the Evolutionary. Orion can potentially posses the Anti Life or become a tool for the Source, while Thor can potentially become Rune King Thor. Potentially a lot of characters can do a lot of things.

A great deal apparently. We've gone over this in like three different threads already. His not above high herald.

Originally posted by Desaad
Well, it's the only fight we have between the two of them. "Generally" seems about right for that particular matchup, doesn't it?

Regardless, I was saying that he was generally on that level -- that he's generally low herald at best. His battle with the Hulk backs that up. Perhaps he can evolve himsel to a greater degree on occasion, as he did with his battle against Galactus, but from what my experience has been he's a low herald level foe.

i'd place him above that, but not too far above. he's a terrible and terribly inconsistent character.

Originally posted by Desaad

Regardless, I was saying that he was generally on that level -- that he's generally low herald at best. His battle with the Hulk backs that up.

really?

Yeah, well that's Grey Hulk, and he still waded through his beam like nothing until Evolutionary went all out.

Originally posted by Desaad
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The HE is defiantly HH at least. Saying he's low herald is beyond silly.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ironic. You placing him as above High Herald in general is probably based on his highest showing(s). This pedastal some people have him on is silly.

I can name three different instances in Thor appearances alone which discredit this notion of him being above High Herald.

There's a better chance of them doing it than the Evolutionary. Orion can potentially posses the Anti Life or become a tool for the Source, while Thor can potentially become Rune King Thor. Potentially a lot of characters can do a lot of things.

A great deal apparently. We've gone over this in like three different threads already. His not above high herald.

And you know damn well that they aren't doing that under their own power. HE seems to amp to those levels under his own power. But generally I agree he isn't above HH.

BTW, Ironman/Thor. You digging it or no?