Originally posted by Deadline
I'm not sure if Batmans standard gear gives him that much advantage. Hell its not like he can snipe Punisher......His standard gear is usually throwing batknifes, explosives, and some gas.
And thermal / night vision.
With his gear Batman should have the advantage. Both of them going Dutch vs Predator style, with limited equipment I'd give it to Punisher.
Originally posted by inimalist
good point, if he wasn't willing to kill he probably loses a solid majoritythe OP could say he is willing to kill, but it isn't hard to believe Punisher might be a bit trigger happy being thrown into this situation
Agh forgot about that CIS is on meaning that Punisher at most would be willing to cripple but not kill. Nah hes not trigger happy against super heroes.
Not sure if its that much of a disadvantage it can be that hard to kneecap batman, or even shoot him point blank with a machine gun (Batman has kevlar). I'm sure he could make non-lethal traps.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And thermal / night vision..
There are ways of getting around that.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Anybody have the scans of their fightin JLA/Avengers?
Meh anyone got scans of the fight they had in the crossover where Pun held his own against Batman eventhough he had the advantage? Hes much better now anyway.
Originally posted by DeadlineActually, I'd like to see all of their fights if anybody could. I remember Batman letting Frank get a free punch in one fight but Frank was just shot or something.Meh anyone got scans of the fight they had in the crossover where Pun held his own against Batman eventhough he had the advantage? Hes much better now anyway.
Originally posted by inimalist
a machine gun/assault rifle would tear kevlar apart like tissue paper.
To be fair some of Batmans kevlar showings have withstood machine gunfire from point blank range without Batman being hurt. Not all showings are consistent so I'm assuming since he dodges gunfire all the time it would at least wind him.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Actually, I'd like to see all of their fights if anybody could. I remember Batman letting Frank get a free punch in one fight but Frank was just shot or something.
First fight.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights1-1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights1-2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights1-3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights1-4.jpg
Second fight.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights2-1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights2-2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights2-3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights2-4.jpg
After letting Punisher punch him once, Bats easily disposes of him (it must be noted, though, that Frank had both shoulders injured and that this may have affected his performance)
Current Punisher would do better though.
Originally posted by Deadline
To be fair some of Batmans kevlar showings have withstood machine gunfire from point blank range without Batman being hurt. Not all showings are consistent so I'm assuming since he dodges gunfire all the time it would at least wind him.
[insert rant about how bullshit comics are]
do they actually call it kevlar as it is withstanding point blank rounds? or do they call it, like, Bat-armor at least?
Originally posted by DeadlineBatman looked better in the first fight and pretty much owned him in the 2nd, but Punisher may have been hindered a tad even though it didn't show.
To be fair some of Batmans kevlar showings have withstood machine gunfire from point blank range without Batman being hurt. Not all showings are consistent so I'm assuming since he dodges gunfire all the time it would at least wind him.First fight.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights1-1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights1-2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights1-3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights1-4.jpgSecond fight.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights2-1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights2-2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights2-3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvspunisher-dknights2-4.jpgAfter letting Punisher punch him once, Bats easily disposes of him (it must be noted, though, that Frank had [b]both
shoulders injured and that this may have affected his performance)Current Punisher would do better though. [/B]
Originally posted by Deadline
Current Punisher would do better though.
It didn't consider it but the fact that Punisher has the body of a 30 year old again should drastically improve his odds against Batman. I mean, even in the body of a 50 year old he has been able give Daredevil a good fight, now that his body is in it's prime again post Frankencastle, Frank should be a much bigger threat than once he was.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
In Hama's Batman run his cowl was durable enough for him to shrug off a sniper round to the forehead. 😈
"and for my next trick, incendiary .50 cal to the stomach!"
actually, now that I think about it, doesn't he take a shot to the head during Hush as well? not anything absurd like a sniper round, but a small caliber round from... Deadshot(?)