Originally posted by SquallXIn a direct confrontation Highfather takes energy blasts with the best of them. His hand to hand sucks. But everyone here is mainly energy manipulators. Highfather is right up there with the best of them.
Highfather took a beating from Dakseid once. So i wouldn't call him weak. He's not the strongest in h2h, but not weak.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiHuh? Odin and Zeus are both magical. Prime has face Mxy Man and Mordru. Both more powerful than anyone on team 1. They will probably tickle him. Tyrant beat up a few Silver Surfer types. Prime beat up dozens of Silver Surfer types. Monarch blew up a universe. He beat up 50 Captain Atoms and Superman and Green Lanterns, etc. Highfather helped crack a universe and he helped stale mate a being as powerful as the source itself. Yeah. Team one is not winning here. It's likely a stalemate. Or Monarch blows himself up leaving behind Prime to get the victory.
Team 1 for the decisive and clear victory. Nobody on team 2 can handle Odin, Zeus or Tyrant one v one... Seems pretty clear cut to me.
Originally posted by passive readerPrime didnt face Mxy at all, he had a alt reality Zatanna sap his will or some shit so he could abduct him and hold him prisoner. Mxy even stated he could go back and turn Prime inside out.
Huh? Odin and Zeus are both magical. Prime has face Mxy Man and Mordru. Both more powerful than anyone on team 1. They will probably tickle him. Tyrant beat up a few Silver Surfer types. Prime beat up dozens of Silver Surfer types. Monarch blew up a universe. He beat up 50 Captain Atoms and Superman and Green Lanterns, etc. Highfather helped crack a universe and he helped stale mate a being as powerful as the source itself. Yeah. Team one is not winning here. It's likely a stalemate. Or Monarch blows himself up leaving behind Prime to get the victory.
Originally posted by NihilistEven if that were true, Mxy is a being that can destroy and recreate everything. No one on team two has that kind of power. The closest Prime has battled to these guys is Mordru, Anti-Monitor. And he's done fine against both. Easily shrugging off Mordru's blasts and Tanking Am's Anti-Matter.
Prime didnt face Mxy at all, he had a alt reality Zatanna sap his will or some shit so he could abduct him and hold him prisoner. Mxy even stated he could go back and turn Prime inside out.
Originally posted by passive readerWell it is true. He faced a weaker Anti Moniter than he was in COIE and he only shrugged off a half assed blast from Mordu..in no way was that 1 blast anything like what Odin or Tyrant regulary use.
Even if that were true, Mxy is a being that can destroy and recreate everything. No one on team two has that kind of power. The closest Prime has battled to these guys is Mordru, Anti-Monitor. And he's done fine against both. Easily shrugging off Mordru's blasts and Tanking Am's Anti-Matter.
Originally posted by NihilistI was unaware Tyrant regularly uses anything since he's only been in one or two comics series. Going by his fight's with Silver Surfer and Gladiator, I'd say his blasts aren't any more potent than Mordru's. Mordu fights Precrisis LOS. That's a lot of power Mordru Packs. Even his casual blast would pwn a Silver Surfer or Thor type.
Well it is true. He faced a weaker Anti Moniter than he was in COIE and he only shrugged off a half assed blast from Mordu..in no way was that 1 blast anything like what Odin or Tyrant regulary use.
Originally posted by passive reader
Huh? Odin and Zeus are both magical. Prime has face Mxy Man and Mordru. Both more powerful than anyone on team 1. They will probably tickle him. Tyrant beat up a few Silver Surfer types. Prime beat up dozens of Silver Surfer types. Monarch blew up a universe. He beat up 50 Captain Atoms and Superman and Green Lanterns, etc. Highfather helped crack a universe and he helped stale mate a being as powerful as the source itself. Yeah. Team one is not winning here. It's likely a stalemate. Or Monarch blows himself up leaving behind Prime to get the victory.
Is this post and attempt at humor?
Odin and Zeus are easily on Monarch level if not beyond. Prime struggled with Monarch (a joking around Monarch mind you).. Monarch also struggled with Prime, and in fact, lost to prime while not fighting at his best. Highfather.. doesn't even belong in the same sentence as anybody on this field. Prime got hurt by Krypto's teeth for God's sake.. He was bloodied by Hal.. hurt by hv... taken care of by flashes.. Where are you getting this fantasy land version of Prime nobody is familiar with? Facts are these... Prime didn't even beat mxy on his own or beat a weaker AM. Yet Odin on his own has stood up to beings on his own that shit all over anybody Prime faced (sans mxy, but again that was with help and massive PIS). Tyrant has beaten teams of heralds.. and actual top tier heralds like SS, BRB, Glads etc etc... Made a Skyfather/Trans level amped and prepped Thanos leave for fear of dying.. and then punks a well fed and prepped Galactus. Zeus of course, is peers to Odin and consider eachother equal. I fail to see how this is a close fight.. let alone team 2 winning.
Originally posted by Allankles
It would be a good close battle. HF and Monarch are just as powerful as anyone on team 1 if not more, as in Monarch's case, and SBP has almost total resistance to direct pure magical assault.So yeah a good fight, however you see it going.
Another attempt at humor? Are you ever right in any thread you post in? HF is now equal to or more powerful than Odin, Zeus or Tyrant.. I honestly spit up my water with laughter when I read that. HF couldn't take a single win from anyone on team 1 and that is with them at 50% and barely trying. HF is as powerful as any member of team one BWAHHAHHA
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Is this post and attempt at humor?Odin and Zeus are easily on Monarch level if not beyond. Prime struggled with Monarch (a joking around Monarch mind you).. Monarch also struggled with Prime, and in fact, lost to prime while not fighting at his best. Highfather.. doesn't even belong in the same sentence as anybody on this field. Prime got hurt by Krypto's teeth for God's sake.. He was bloodied by Hal.. hurt by hv... taken care of by flashes.. Where are you getting this fantasy land version of Prime nobody is familiar with? Facts are these... Prime didn't even beat mxy on his own or beat a weaker AM. Yet Odin on his own has stood up to beings on his own that shit all over anybody Prime faced (sans mxy, but again that was with help and massive PIS). Tyrant has beaten teams of heralds.. and actual top tier heralds like SS, BRB, Glads etc etc... Made a Skyfather/Trans level amped and prepped Thanos leave for fear of dying.. and then punks a well fed and prepped Galactus. Zeus of course, is peers to Odin and consider eachother equal. I fail to see how this is a close fight.. let alone team 2 winning.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Are you ever right in any thread you post in HF is now equal to or more powerful than Odin, Zeus or Tyrant.. I honestly spit up my water with laughter when I read that. HF couldn't take a single win from anyone on team 1 and that is with them at 50% and barely trying. HF is as powerful as any member of team one BWAHHAHHA
Wasn't I the one who told you that the other day? Holding a grudge? And good job overexaaggerating as usual. Only Monarch imo is more powerful than either Zeus or Odin, I didn't say any different (still have reading comprehension issues I see). And Highfather is most certainly as powerful as Odin or Zeus.
Provided a fifth of the power to destroy a dimension (at least). Was able to merge two galaxy sized planets. Created one of the most powerful beings in the universe. Provided the power to create the Celestial city and then recreate it after it had been destroyed during Volume 3 of the NG. Combined 5 skyfathers into a single entity.
Every time Highfather does anything it's almost always impressive, he simply rarely fights despite the fact that the New Gods have shown up in enough titles for writers to have had him doing battle.
The real answer is that his character was meant to be the voice of rationality among cosmic gods, according to the guy who created the character.
Also when he was attacked by a group of the "primitive" gods was able to erect shields which comfortably blocked all their attacks. So even when directly assaulted in one of the few times he's been attacked, he shows his vast energy versatility again.
Originally posted by Allankles
HF is only a weak link in h2h, if it comes down to energy slinging he's far from a weak link.
I know that. HF doesn't need to fight, he could just stay back and covers the team.
It seems you know quite a few things when it comes to HF. So my creation is, is he still alive. Because the last time i saw him was when he spoke to Superman, while Superman was stuck in the Source, and HF was dead.
Was he resurrected, or is he still dead.
Just remembered, HF could always bfr them inside the Source Wall. I mean Dessad with HF's staff did it to Superman, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have half the knowledge to use the staff.