i know the feat you are referencing for Paladin. He hoisted a trolley and was trying to flip it when the spider showed up and used one finger to help him finish flipping it over to it's side.
it's in the spiderman respect thread.
either way it was a s feat for paladin to show the lvl of superhuman strength he possesses
Originally posted by King Castle
i know the feat you are referencing for Paladin. He hoisted a trolley and was trying to flip it when the spider showed up and used one finger to help him finish flipping it over to it's side.it's in the spiderman respect thread.
either way it was a s feat for paladin to show the lvl of superhuman strength he possesses
Yeah. A rail car is upwards of 30 tons even empty. He didn't out right flip it over like Spidy did, but lifting it is still crazy.
what's impressive in this fight...
for one he couldn't get a hit in until after ironfist had thrown and disarmed him, and he got a solid kick (if he had 30 ton strength that should've put ironfist down)
he was smacked around the entire fight, the two hits he did get in did absolutely nothing despite having 30 ton strength apparently, and despite being an expert marksman he missed ironfist who was in free fall.
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this is one of paladins best fighting skill feats
trackz
the fight he had with Ironfist was one sided as in paladin wasnt trying to kill nor injure him but talk to him. he was holding back and purely on defense.
even than it was just to show paladin isnt that bad and can take some heavy IF blows. aside from that he didnt use all his gadgets in his arsenal.
the other links that i posted shows Paladin taking on the thunderbolt team including cap and knocking him out.. of course he had the element of surprise but still impressive.
it displays his fighting skills and shows one of the few gadgets he has on him.
Originally posted by King Castle
trackzthe fight he had with Ironfist was one sided as in paladin wasnt trying to kill nor injure him but talk to him. he was holding back and purely on defense.
even than it was just to show paladin isnt that bad and can take some heavy IF blows. aside from that he didnt use all his gadgets in his arsenal.
the other links that i posted shows Paladin taking on the thunderbolt team including cap and knocking him out.. of course he had the element of surprise but still impressive.
it displays his fighting skills and shows one of the few gadgets he has on him.
It's one sided, you can call it a non-fight, but it surely doesn't do anything to prove paladins skill..he also started shooting at ironfist, that means he was trying to injure him.
he backstabbed them and had them weakened by the team the fight started, in fact all he had to do was hold his own until the gas did he work for him. Then we see despite all his gadgets he gets owned the moment he has to take someone on equal footing.
These fights show he's a great mercenary, but head-to-head he's not that solid.
is spiderman was able to flick over the rail car, there was no way it was 15 tons.
so what happens when he throws gas pellets, his auto weapons and taser blast?
i dont see Blade taking him on with his full gear.
in a melee fight sure i see Paladin losing due to the adamantium advantage blade has other than that there is nothing that suggest paladin is less skilled a fighter than Blade.. hell, i see him being better skilled in MA than blade if it came down to a h2h fight.
Originally posted by King Castle
so what happens when he throws gas pellets, his auto weapons and taser blast?i dont see Blade taking him on with his full gear.
in a melee fight sure i see Paladin losing due to the adamantium advantage blade has other than that there is nothing that suggest paladin is less skilled a fighter than Blade.. hell, i see him being better skilled in MA than blade if it came down to a h2h fight.
they're not in an enclosed room like they were in the civil war scene, gas pellets wont be as effective. Blade has autoweapons too and is a better show than Paladin is. He's also much faster and I still haven't seen evidence that he has that 10 ton strength, especially after someone pointed out that a handbook has him at 1 ton.
that car he lifted definitely wasn't in excess of ten tons as spiderman flipped it over with a flick.
Blade has overpowered and lifted a behemoth of a demon over his head.
why would it come down to a hand-to-hand fight? Blade has much better skill feats with his weapons than Paladin has with or without his.
Paladins only saving grace in this fight is his taser (which I'm still skeptical about) and he has to get it off either before blade shoots him or before blade closes the gap.
spiderman only helped get him over the final push like a pendulum.. it doesnt take away from Paladin's actual superhuman strength he has which was meant to halt a mob of ppl.
that's like saying if i lean on a weight that is being balanced i am stronger than the guy who actually placed it there.
the whole point of the scan is to show Paladin's actual superhuman strength which it did quite clearly other than some who simply want to down play it using Spidey "help out of context.
Originally posted by King Castle
spiderman only helped get him over the final push like a pendulum.. it doesnt take away from Paladin's actual superhuman strength he has which was meant to halt a mob of ppl.that's like saying if i lean on a weight that is being balanced i am stronger than the guy who actually placed it there.
the whole point of the scan is to show Paladin's actual superhuman strength which it did quite clearly other than some who simply want to down play it using Spidey "help out of context.
paladin didn't even have it ready to tip, he lifted it mostly with his legs and couldnt push it any higher, spiderman flicked it. do you think spidermans flick produced in excess of ten tons of force?
that wasn't a very good analogy to the scan presented at all.
Originally posted by King Castleblade overpowered a huge demon and actually lifted it. Paladin paladin struggled to tip over a rail car, that spiderman was able to flick over, and it's not like paladin had the car on the verge of tipping. Does paladin even have any other strength feats?
of course he used his legs he needed to use his overall strength it is a supehrhuman strength eat no matter how you try to downplay is actually far less disambiguous than Blade's best strength feat.
