Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
So if someone has a seizure, and then it stops, they should be right back to 100% immediately, right?
No where was it mentioned that his God Blast was hindered in any way. In fact, Thor compares it to the blast he used on Galactus and the Celestials. The seizures only hindered him physically, and not by much. He was still able to floor Juggernaut with a single punch.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
No where was it mentioned that his God Blast was hindered in any way. In fact, Thor compares it to the blast he used on Galactus and the Celestials. The seizures only hindered him physically, and not by much. He was still able to floor Juggernaut with a single punch.
He says it's the same blast. That doesn't mean it's the same level of power. Just compare the instances. The blast that he used against the Celesitals destroyed a Mjolnir with amped fortifications. And this was under the same writer to boot. At bare minimum the blast against the Celestials was more powerful by a significant amount and I'd wager the same on the blast against Galactus but to a lower extent.
The God Blast is depended on Thor's own Godly Energies and Thor was weakened significantly. He made that clear. And the seizure against Cain IIRC was the worst one yet. Being able to floor Juggernaut with a punch is something Thor can apparently do when significantly weakened.
Let's also not forget the force field Cain was using.
Originally posted by CortSether
He resisted being destroyed within Oblivion's realm. That's far more power than anything in this thread.
Does anyone have the scan of this instance? I don't want to get the issue. IIRC, Eternity banished him to Oblivions realm but that doesn't necessarily mean he resisted Oblivion's powers. As a matter of fact, I remember Cain returning by making a deal with Oblivion or something in Amazing Adventures.
Originally posted by CortSether
He's functioned as purely a skeleton just in his classic incarnation. 8th Day wouldn't be phased by anything in this gauntlet.Next.
A high end showing for his will/hate/healing factor. Even in that scene, he admitted he could be destroyed and was preparing himself for it until D'Spayre was stopped. Cain was drained however of most of his power, putting that scene even further out there. He only operated at that level like once.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusOblivion Made a pact with Juggernaut because He could not get rid of him, the guy could not be killed permanently, Oblivion got tired of him and since he could not be destroyed he sent him back to earth... 💃
As a matter of fact, I remember Cain returning by making a deal with Oblivion or something
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusYeah Cain was weakened when he went against D'Spayre.
Does anyone have the scan of this instance? I don't want to get the issue. IIRC, Eternity banished him to Oblivions realm but that doesn't necessarily mean he resisted Oblivion's powers. As a matter of fact, I remember Cain returning by making a deal with Oblivion or something in Amazing Adventures.A high end showing for his will/hate/healing factor. Even in that scene, he admitted he could be destroyed and was preparing himself for it until D'Spayre was stopped. Cain was drained however of most of his power, putting that scene even further out there. He only operated at that level like once.
As for this thread I could see Cain taking them all. It's not a power level thing. People like Galactus and Odin would win without much problem just not directly attacking Cain as described here.
I mean there is precedence for people surviving their attacks like Thanos and such.
And Durability is Cain's main thing. We've seen Heralds before go above and beyond their yield as long as its in their category. Superman can wrestle an angel through strength, Silver Surfer can channel the Crunch through energy manip. Thor can unleash devastating skyfather destroying attacks through is godhood, Flash can outrun Death through speed.
So I could see Cain taking these attacks if need be.
Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah Cain was weakened when he went against D'Spayre.As for this thread I could see Cain taking them all. It's not a power level thing. People like Galactus and Odin would win without much problem just not directly attacking Cain as described here.
I mean there is precedence for people surviving their attacks like Thanos and such.
And Durability is Cain's main thing. We've seen Heralds before go above and beyond their yield as long as its in their category. Superman can wrestle an angel through strength, Silver Surfer can channel the Crunch through energy manip. Thor can unleash devastating skyfather destroying attacks through is godhood, Flash can outrun Death through speed.
So I could see Cain taking these attacks if need be.
He took a blast from the Stranger and was completely undamaged and he's a high end cosmic.
Stranger, a high end Cosmic? Lulz. In that same issue Iceman froze his eye beams. Dude's comical. Odin and Galactus would eat him alive.
His highest showing is in the latest Thor mini series. Apparently he created Ego -someone I would have wagered would eat him alive- and even temporarily knocked Thor out. A bit of a low showing. Thor's tanked an attack from him unharmed before IIRC.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusyet Thor can't match him in Durability... 😆 don't even try to compare them PLEASE... 😠
Stranger, a high end Cosmic? Lulz. In that same issue Iceman froze his eye beams. Dude's comical. Odin and Galactus would eat him alive.His highest showing is in the latest Thor mini series. Apparently he created Ego -someone I would have wagered would eat him alive- and even temporarily knocked Thor out. A bit of a low showing. Thor's tanked an attack from him unharmed before IIRC.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusBut lets not say it was by far the weakest godblast. We know it was obviously weaker due to the seizures. But how much weaker is speculation.
He says it's the same blast. That doesn't mean it's the same level of power. Just compare the instances. The blast that he used against the Celesitals destroyed a Mjolnir with amped fortifications. And this was under the same writer to boot. At bare minimum the blast against the Celestials was more powerful by a significant amount and I'd wager the same on the blast against Galactus but to a lower extent.The God Blast is depended on Thor's own Godly Energies and Thor was weakened significantly. He made that clear. And the seizure against Cain IIRC was the worst one yet. Being able to floor Juggernaut with a punch is something Thor can apparently do when significantly weakened.
Let's also not forget the force field Cain was using.
You could say 99% and I could say 1%. Neither are right.