Well, imo Hulk could beat surfer in a fistfight. I know that hulk is capable of knocking him out, but the instance was somewhat of a sucker punch and he was battling all of the warbound before that and doing quite well. I would use the amp argument, but I dont know how much he can amp.
So it's probably a draw.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Did Hulk actually hurt Zeus or something? Why the hell is he getting the nod against a Surfer who doesn't ***** out in fights anymore?
On the contrary I dont see why Surfer is getting so much credit here - hes never looked much good in fisticuffs at all and theres never been a clearcut example of him amping his own strength to any notable degree. I think the best example was when he stopped Rhinos charge, but Rhino is hardly the Juggernaut.
Him and Namor pretty handily failed to restrain the Savage Hulk in the Order mini so if he could have amped up to approach or overpower Hulk at will then i imagine he would have tried to do so there where he was most certainly in a more ruthless state of mind.
As for Planet Hulk its probably his most capable appearance as a fighter though i dont agree that he handled Hulk and the Warbound at the same time. The sequence of events is:
1 Hulk says hello to Surfer
2 Sufer leads off with an almighty suckerpunch
3 They grapple and Hulk yells at him
4 Surfer headbutts him
5 Surfer trashes the Warbound
6 Hiroim and Hulk work together to break the disc
7 Surfer stops to thank Hulk
8 Hulk puts his lights out
Both were depowered and both hit the other with all out blows. The Surfer ended up in the bottom of a ditch. The Surfer put down the brief and utterly ineffectual Warbound attack (Miek + Brood then Korg) in a single page that barely interrupted his encounters with Hulk. Surfer looked fast and dangerous but didnt look stronger and while its hardly a clean win in a straight fight I think it shows pretty clearly that Hulk hits harder (the Surfer also had his board and a mace that was crackling with energy throughout the fight that i suppose he wont have here). Surfer did well to recover in a decent timeframe though.
And as for the first question the single punch that Hulk landed in their fight did seem to cause Zeus at least some pain.
Originally posted by FifthchildInteresting take on the sequence of events. Most notably, the fact the you point out that the Surfer sucker punched Banner, but then later, the Hulk punched his lights out. Was that not a sucker punch as well?
On the contrary I dont see why Surfer is getting so much credit here - hes never looked much good in fisticuffs at all and theres never been a clearcut example of him amping his own strength to any notable degree. I think the best example was when he stopped Rhinos charge, but Rhino is hardly the Juggernaut.Him and Namor pretty handily failed to restrain the Savage Hulk in the Order mini so if he could have amped up to approach or overpower Hulk at will then i imagine he would have tried to do so there where he was most certainly in a more ruthless state of mind.
As for Planet Hulk its probably his most capable appearance as a fighter though i dont agree that he handled Hulk and the Warbound at the same time. The sequence of events is:
1 Hulk says hello to Surfer
2 Sufer leads off with an almighty suckerpunch
3 They grapple and Hulk yells at him
4 Surfer headbutts him
5 Surfer trashes the Warbound
6 Hiroim and Hulk work together to break the disc
7 Surfer stops to thank Hulk
8 Hulk puts his lights outBoth were depowered and both hit the other with all out blows. The Surfer ended up in the bottom of a ditch. The Surfer put down the brief and utterly ineffectual Warbound attack (Miek + Brood then Korg) in a single page that barely interrupted his encounters with Hulk. Surfer looked fast and dangerous but didnt look stronger and while its hardly a clean win in a straight fight I think it shows pretty clearly that Hulk hits harder (the Surfer also had his board and a mace that was crackling with energy throughout the fight that i suppose he wont have here). Surfer did well to recover in a decent timeframe though.
And as for the first question the single punch that Hulk landed in their fight did seem to cause Zeus at least some pain.
Originally posted by GRIMNIRWhy would he need to amp to the level of Galactus strength to deal with Banner?
If Silver Surfer could use all his powers then he win
As it is a brawl Hulk wins
Silver Surfer only has a fraction of Galactus' power cosmic, he cannot amp himself upto level of Galactus strength.
Hulk's upper limit is way higher than Silver Surfer.