Originally posted by Naija boyI doubt that Molecule man was at full mental capacity. he does have a long history of being a tard.
I dont think i even mentioned Ares once in my post. Neither Thor nor SS could tear apart the molecules of molecule man...ever. Heck neither of them could even do the same thing to Loki. This has nothing do with being more ruthless, he was more powerful plain and simple.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Yes, that's amazing that Void beat MM. Guess what, Thor's beaten Galactus twice that I know of. He's broken the head of a Celestial. The Surfer has defeated (killed) Primordial gods.And btw the Void shouldn't be able to kill Molecule Man either. But hey, Spiderman shouldn't be able to beat the classic Juggernaut, Heralds of Galactus, and the Hulk, but that's why we have the phrase "bad writing". After Void got the Helicarrier dropped on his head, Thor could have ended him right there, but he didn't want to. He flat out said he wouldn't kill him. And not only that, but Thor had gotten beaten down prior to his fight by the Void by a team that included at least 2 guys who had each beaten the Hulk one on one in the past.
Gimme a freaking break. Thor drove away a weakened galactus without he god blast. Very impressive, but in terms of battle practicality irrelevant. The void will just reform. The same goes for damaging the celestials head. The way in which the surfer beat the primordial gods is also irrelevant battle wise as in this scenario it cannot be replicated. The way void beat molecule man however is directly relevant to this fight and neither Thor nor ss nor brb have any method with which to counter it. Attemtping to turn this into a high fest comparison when the feats being used aren't even relevant to this battle is a red herring and is evidence of sn extremely weak argument.
Moreover ur comparison of void beating molecule man and spiderman beating hulk is another intellectually dishonest argument as well as a false analogy. Spiderman didn't best hulk, juggernaut or fire lord by directly proving to be more powerful them. He beats them due to them fighting like idiots. That is not in any way the same as voidsentry tsking molecule mans best shrugging it off and beating him at his own game. Not even close. Further more, what reenforces the labeling of pis in spider mans case is that spiderman powerlevel has been long established through his history. However one of the core points of sentries character was that his power level was always in constant flux based on his psyche. Therefore the two situations are totally incomparable.
Void still wins due to his displayed powers. No amount of hate infused arguments can change that.
Oh and I repeat neither hor nor Ss can simply dissipate Loki on a whim. Loki is at the very least a mid herald level character more likely high herald even. Ss and Thor have had encounters with him in the past and have nowhere been even insinuated as being so far above him.
Originally posted by Naija boyDid he? Power without direction and full mental capacity means what? Thor had the power gem and was no where near the Zenith of his capability with said gem because he was a tard. Same thing with MM. And MM has a very long history of being a tard.
The mm that sentry fought showed himself to be still considerably more powerful than any of the herald level people in this thread. Too attempt to ignore that and just disregard the feat under the pretense of instability is nonsensical.
Originally posted by Comics Queenhonestly, that sounds like excuses.
In order for Void to be taken seriously, he's going to have to deconstruct Galactus, Eternity, or some other powerful Entity on par with Molecule Man. MM is too unstable and ALWAYS limits himself during fights so using him as a bar is not a good standard. Especially for a one time feat.
Excuses? You make excuses to your boss or someone in authority. You don't make excuses for a comic character. MM's history is rife with self imposed limits and him being a general tard. Until void consistantly defeats multiversal beings who aren't human tards, then the feat can't be used as viable. It's like Saying Spiderman can beat any herald that Firelord can beat just because Spiderman won. Ug.
lolwut?
Originally posted by Comics Queen
Did he? Power without direction and full mental capacity means what? Thor had the power gem and was no where near the Zenith of his capability with said gem because he was a tard. Same thing with MM. And MM has a very long history of being a tard.
Lol, even accepting the assumption that he wasn't at full capacity or capabilities and whatnot. The level of molecular control he displayed even in this state would put him far above the likes of Thor and ss. Period. And sentry proved to be More powerful him in that situation. Thor with the pg is in no way similar to this situation. Not at all
Originally posted by Silent Master
The MM that Sentry beat didn't look very impressive.
He was a recluse. And had wrapped himself in constructs. He only wanted to be left alone and dealt with all of his assailants to the extent of his abilities.
Sentry overriding MM's defences briefly is no surprise to me. Sentry adapted and used his abilities with new awareness and decimated MM.
Sentry has always been a character who hungered for help in self awareness. But nobody could understand him until he let a Super Villain into his world. The tragedy of the Sentry story is that he was a simple junky who wanted a fix, therefore always having an evil force on the back of his psyche. Robert was never a noble guy until he acheived such power levels.
Early Sentry has him creating an alternate personality who coerces a mutant into helping it erase the minds and records of any evidence of his existence! Then proceeded into become different versions of himself in a desperate act of escapism.-
-A recluse in an apartment.
-A comicbook character.
-A prisoner in the Raft.
Can Sentry/Void win this fight yeah, can he lose? of course.
Originally posted by Naija boyVery much similar. Full mental capacity and willingness to fight is always relevant. And are we forgetting MM is a human being? Do you honestly think if MM wanted to, Sentry void could have done a thing but get turned into stone?
lolwut?Lol, even accepting the assumption that he wasn't at full capacity or capabilities and whatnot. The level of molecular control he displayed even in this state would put him far above the likes of Thor and ss. Period. And sentry proved to be More powerful him in that situation. Thor with the pg is in no way similar to this situation. Not at all
Originally posted by Comics Queen
Very much similar. Full mental capacity and willingness to fight is always relevant. And are we forgetting MM is a human being? Do you honestly think if MM wanted to, Sentry void could have done a thing but get turned into stone?
Sentry evolved. Struck when he could.
Originally posted by Comics Queenwell, void doesn't have the chance to face many multiversal beings...so that's a moot point
Excuses? You make excuses to your boss or someone in authority. You don't make excuses for a comic character. MM's history is rife with self imposed limits and him being a general tard. Until void consistantly defeats multiversal beings who aren't human tards, then the feat can't be used as viable. It's like Saying Spiderman can beat any herald that Firelord can beat just because Spiderman won. Ug.
also, spiderman had a lot of low showings that indicate the firelord instance was PIS. whereas Sentry was pretty much depicted as an ultrapowerful being with unknown limits.
Originally posted by Naija boyDo you think Sentry can beat the Beyonder? Or Galactus? Or Odin?
Lol, he did more than turn him stone, he disintegrated him. And it didn't help him. Well it's clear at this point that all that is left are desperation arguments which completely deny the reality of what happened on panel.heh people really must not like the sentry
Originally posted by Naija boy
Lol, he did more than turn him stone, he disintegrated him. And it didn't help him. Well it's clear at this point that all that is left are desperation arguments which completely deny the reality of what happened on panel.heh people really must not like the sentry
FTL speed.
Molecular Manipulation.
Immortality/Reconstruction.
Random TP insane feats.
Amped Hulk level strength.
Then you have Void!