Voidtry/Void/Sentry vs Amazo

Started by quanchi1126 pages

Originally posted by Uriel005
it pisses me off but it appears that Amazo has very few copy limits. I mean even Zantanna's magic he shouldn't be able to copy let alone wondy's lasso + effects but he can. So I wouldn't put it past him to copy void and he doesn't have Bob's suicidal tendency's. Personally I think that Amazo should stick to his original specs and only be able to copy powers reliant on physiology. Origninally it was copying cells that let him copy super powers and therefore intellect based abilities beyond physical capacity to learn as well as magical based abilities should be impossible to copy.

But I digress because writers say that he copies just about anything and he can copy a whole bunch of people then he can copy void imo unless a crossover expressly states he can't because there may be one or two characters that he has ever faced that he was unable to copy and many powers just fall out of what his original design specifications should allow.

I understand but others who can copy have failed to copy the Sentry. It just comes down to personal beliefs here and I see Void as the exception whereas you do not.

Question: aside from Super Adaptoid, who else has tried to copy Void?

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
nothing in this thread convinces me that void has a single chance. 🙂

He doesn't.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Question: aside from Super Adaptoid, who else has tried to copy Void?

I dont think SA has tired to copy void, it was just the Skrulls and they are no where close to Amazon in terms of power and copying. Didnt SA copied MJJ? If SA failed to copy Void then its PIS.

Originally posted by The Nuul
I dont think SA has tired to copy void, it was just the Skrulls and they are no where close to Amazon in terms of power and copying. Didnt SA copied MJJ? If SA failed to copy Void then its PIS.

SA tried to copy Sentry, but it picked up Void as well since they're a package deal. And MJJ? Amazo could probably copy him, nothing I've seen in SA says it could do it.

If you want to see SA's attempt at copying Voidtry, check out Sentry's respect thread, it's there.

Re: Voidtry/Void/Sentry vs Amazo

Originally posted by The Nuul
Amazo starts off with JLA powers.

Supes
Martian Manhunter
Wonder Woman
Batman
Green Lantern Hal
Zatanna
Firestorm
Red Tornado
Atom (Ray Palmer)

Who wins?

and the powers of void and sentry......this is pretty one sided.....it's basically void/sentry/voidtry vs themselves plus all those other powers......

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm just giving an example of an entire army who can copy pretty much any other character on marvel earth save him. That's impressive.

Also do you think Amazo has limits ?

Yes I believe he has limits. But his limits are far beyond anything that void has the capacity to max out. If he wants to he copies void.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Say what you will about the guy, he wasn't always wrong. 😛

Black Bolt Z: Check out Extant and Hourman 1M's respect threads to see how powerful the Worlogog is. It's IG level at least.

I know what the Worlogog is. I just don't think that a cube being would be considered jack shit to it. Its still far beyond anything void has ever done.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes I believe he has limits. But his limits are far beyond anything that void has the capacity to max out. If he wants to he copies void. I know what the Worlogog is. I just don't think that a cube being would be considered jack shit to it. Its still far beyond anything void has ever done.
I disagree. Void is just an anomaly. Copying Voids powers anyways doesn't mean you become the Void.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree. Void is just an anomaly. Copying Voids powers anyways doesn't mean you become the Void.
He doesn't have to become the void. He has his powers.

So you have yet to explain to me how this team can beat someone better then them in every single way + themselves.

Cuz this team certainly isn't going to outsmart him.

Every time Amazo shows up, he's beaten by a plot device of some kind. Aside from the crappy models, like the one that got beat by Batman. 😛

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He doesn't have to become the void. He has his powers.

So you have yet to explain to me how this team can beat someone better then them in every single way + themselves.

Cuz this team certainly isn't going to outsmart him.

Void/try beat MM who also had his powers because he wasn't the Void/try and couldn't survive what he can.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Void/try beat MM who also had his powers because he wasn't the Void/try and couldn't survive what he can.
MM didn't have voids powers 😬.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
SA tried to copy Sentry, but it picked up Void as well since they're a package deal. And MJJ? Amazo could probably copy him, nothing I've seen in SA says it could do it.

If you want to see SA's attempt at copying Voidtry, check out Sentry's respect thread, it's there.

Perfectly legit for Amazo in my book to copy MJJ it's a mutation and falls within original stips of his copy powers. I just dislike the magical/spiritual aspect of his copy capability as by original design he shouldn't be able to.

Originally posted by Badabing
There have been arguments about Sentry, Void, Siege and Molecule Man. This has been an on again, off again discussion among mods and a few posters.

We think the best way to handle the disagreement is as follows:

[list][*]Siege Sentry/Void should be a self contained character within the arc for thread purposes. And not applied to anything before Siege.

[*]Sentry and Void feats are not interchangeable, at all.

[*]Siege feats by Sentry and Void should not be applied to anything preceding the arc.

[*]The Molecule Man vs Sentry/Void fight shouldn't be considered a typical or average showing since the power displayed happened only once and therefore isn't verifiable. Also, Owen's erratic past regarding his own mental state should be considered.[/list]

It's apparent that Sentry/Void was evolving during Siege by the feats and dialogue. It's also shown that Sentry was "voiding" out even when he still looked like regular Sentry. Given the ambiguity regarding Sentry/Void, we think it's for the best that the character be separated by the Siege arc.

So, to avoid excess flaming and bashing, we would like threads to show either the Siege Sentry/Void or regular Sentry/Void to avoid any problems.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
MM didn't have voids powers 😬.
They used the same powers against each other. One won one lost.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Perfectly legit for Amazo in my book to copy MJJ it's a mutation and falls within original stips of his copy powers. I just dislike the magical/spiritual aspect of his copy capability as by original design he shouldn't be able to.
Yeah, I hear you. But it's grandfathered in at this point, so we live with it. Hell, alot of stuff from the golden and silver age doesn't make sense. Although, I think there is actually a magic gene for some people in DC. crylaugh

Originally posted by quanchi112
They used the same powers against each other. One won one lost.
So Owen had the power to reform from damn near anything? Since when?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So Owen had the power to reform from damn near anything? Since when?
Molecule Man has always been pretty broken when he's not insane. I don't know if anyone has ever gotten him to that point, but it would not surprise me if there' a showing of him doing something like that.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So Owen had the power to reform from damn near anything? Since when?
He had the same powers and was beaten by the same powers but since he isn't Void he can't reform back.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He had the same powers and was beaten by the same powers but since he isn't Void he can't reform back.
No h did not have the same powers.

Void doesn't have reality warping powers.