The Weaponer vs. Silver Surfer

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Originally posted by King Castle
what would happen if surfer open a black hole?
Originally posted by john allerdyce
No BFR or battlefield destruction.
I'd guess that opening up a black hole anywhere near Qward would violate one (or both) of those stipulations.

hmmm.. mhmm

what if he goes intangible?

Then he wouldn't be able to cause any damage to Weaponer either. Double-edged sword. durcan

Listen, I'm not saying The Weaponer would take it more times than not. However, someone who can easily trounce Ganthet, Kyle, and John is going to give Surfer a VERY good fight, every single time.

SS can still blast and effect his DNA while intangible/..... 😛

i saw the fight i just shrugged it off to jobbing but if you guys see it as Weaponer being that bad@$$ than there isnt much to argue.

i just see it like any other hero who fights teams he cant possibly beat yet still looks good doing and even humiliating them even if he/she cant do it in a forum battle due to characters fighting at there best and within personality

Originally posted by King Castle
but if you guys see it as Weaponer being that bad@$$ than there isnt much to argue.
That's exactly how I see it. Don't know how it can be viewed otherwise, tbh.

The dude tooled several seasoned Lanterns and a Guardian. He's a beast.

Originally posted by Galan007
you mean the weaponer from recent issues of GLC? he'd do extremely well... heck, he'd likely even take some, imo (assuming he is equipped with his white-energy-channeling hammer/shield.)

the guy simultaneously owned ganthet, kyle, john, sora, boodikka, soranik, and hannu with a good deal of ease. that's something even surfer would be hard-pressed to do, me thinks.

i think it was one of those things in comics where they introduce or reintroduce a character with a grand entrance. they start pwning characters left and right (ie. Red Hulk) then start to get evened out.
Anyways, Surfer for a large majority based on feats. hate to use abc logic, but he did get tooled badly by Sinestro.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
i think it was one of those things in comics where they introduce or reintroduce a character with a grand entrance. they start pwning characters left and right (ie. Red Hulk) then start to get evened out.
Could be. Doesn't really matter though. Feats are feats.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
hate to use abc logic, but he did get tooled badly by Sinestro.
If that's the only reason you are giving Surfer the win here, then there is no point to discuss this any further, as you clearly have a preconceived notion that Sinestro is inferior to Surfer. If that is in fact the case, then I suggest you read GL v4, and GLC v2. Upon doing so, any gap in power you may have though there was between them will almost certainly vanish.

sinestro has always seem inferior to me and i collected some old school stuff from 80'90's...

Feat wise Surfer still shines like a hood ornament on a Bentley

Originally posted by King Castle
sinestro has always seem inferior to me and i collected some old school stuff from 80'90's...
Back then I'd agree. Now, not so much.

weaponer is a beast

sayin that, still like norrin here

that's why you da man, Guy 222 😎

Originally posted by Galan007
Could be. Doesn't really matter though. Feats are feats.

If that's the only reason you are giving Surfer the win here, then there is no point to discuss this any further, as you clearly have a preconceived notion that Sinestro is inferior to Surfer. If that is in fact the case, then I suggest you read GL v4, and GLC v2. Upon doing so, any gap in power you may have though there was between them will almost certainly vanish.

nope not the only reason. obviously i did mentioned "the grand entrance syndrome" that is prevalent in comics. I hope u dont think that recent showing by Weaponer puts him close with the Surfer. I guess the Surfer's laundry list of wtf?!?! feats dont mean much to you either. this aint Surfer Vs. Sinestro afterall.

quardians were already beasts. their weapons can casually knock superman oln his ass. and these are non magic

Originally posted by Galan007
you mean the weaponer from recent issues of GLC? he'd do extremely well... heck, he'd likely even take some, imo (assuming he is equipped with his white-energy-channeling hammer/shield.)

the guy simultaneously owned ganthet, kyle, john, sora, boodikka, soranik, and hannu with a good deal of ease. that's something even surfer would be hard-pressed to do, me thinks.

they would have beaten him easily if they just took the shield he kept talking about out of his hand.

If Sinestro makes him his *****, Surfer do the same thing, but faster.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
If Sinestro makes him his *****, Surfer do the same thing, but faster.

Norrin <<< Sinestro.

^ I agree. I don't think it's a huge gap but I do think current Sinestro has been written so beastly that he could take Surfer.

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Sinestro could take current Surfer and win, imo.

This is an interesting debate. On the weaponer, I'd say that so far his feats have depended very much on his ability to subvert his opponents' energy constructs, and since Surfer doesn't use constructs, it is difficult to gauge how the fight would go down. I'm inclined to give the weaponer 1-3/10, simply because technology is Norrin's kryptonite, and the weaponer is packing heat in this department.

As for Sinestro, I strongly disagree that even his impressive recent showings put him above Surfer, on account of Surfer's recent showings, his collective feats, and also his excellent track-record against other energy-manipulating characters. On the other hand, I am a bigger surfer fan than a sinestro fan, and surfer's feats are so disparate in terms of power levels (maybe more than any other herald, except PC supes), that it is easy to high or low-ball him.

For the record, Qwardian tech has always been pretty damn good. Anybody remember the Void Hound from JLA? Or the tesseract bombs it used on Captain Marvel?