Originally posted by TricksterPriestCeleyhyga: Hank's feats shit on those. Seriously, considering the tech he's grabbed, there's nothing you can find that will put Rider over hank.
A better response would be; “what evidence does Nova w/WM have that his defenses are sturdy enough to hold off Hank”?
You then deduct if its within possibility to hold of hanks cyber hacking or not.
Originally posted by "Id"
I fail to mention that Nova Prime is accessing World Mind. Not the watered down female version, as last seen. If its capacity is enough to hold back Ultron, and the Phalanx at bay. It should be enough to provide enough protection from Hanks technopathy.At the very least, for a certain period of time.
As for the match. In terms of matching raw output, most seem to favor Cyborg. This is the same Cyborg that was getting pounded by Green Lanterns, simply put its durability is not up to par with Man of Steel. Nova on the other hand, has shown the capacity to collapse a White Dwarf early on… Don’t sleep on his power.
Though Hank seems to be un-killable, forum rules are clear about characters like him, and fall under the first time death = loss.
So no I don’t see this as a total mismatch. But carry on.
Ultron and the phalanx are not nearly the masters of technopathy that Hank is. Hacking new god tech puts him far above them.
Which example of him being pounded by GLs are you refering to? As for death, no one has killed him.....ever. He can't be killed by destroying his body no matter how many times you do it.
Hank also has pulled weapons on the fly to depower foes. Not to mention wrecking teams far stronger than any teams Ryder has faced. And let's not get into the fact that Henshaw has access to Sin Corp and GL rings and technology. Or that he can make them on the fly.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestHe was brought back to life by the manhunters when his body was destroyed in scorps war. I
Ultron and the phalanx are not nearly the masters of technopathy that Hank is. Hacking new god tech puts him far above them.Which example of him being pounded by GLs are you refering to? As for death, no one has killed him.....ever. He can't be killed by destroying his body no matter how many times you do it.
Hank also has pulled weapons on the fly to depower foes. Not to mention wrecking teams far stronger than any teams Ryder has faced. And let's not get into the fact that Henshaw has access to Sin Corp and GL rings and technology. Or that he can make them on the fly.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ultron and the phalanx are not nearly the masters of technopathy that Hank is. Hacking new god tech puts him far above them.
Hank isn’t the only one so has Brother Eye. Is this enough to warrant Brother Eye to be an equal Technopathic Powerhouse? Or maybe your placing to much stock on taking over New God tech?
But here is a better question, does New God tech come with fail safe parameters to keep it from being hacked? If so, what are its best points of reference?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Which example of him being pounded by GLs are you refering to? As for death, no one has killed him.....ever. He can't be killed by destroying his body no matter how many times you do it.
I don’t recall, but the image of his limb falling off from an exchange with the GL’s is forever burned on mind.
Regardless if its not permanent, its still considered a temporary death, enough to fall under the k.O. clause set by the forum rules.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestHank also has pulled weapons on the fly to depower foes. Not to mention wrecking teams far stronger than any teams Ryder has faced. And let's not get into the fact that Henshaw has access to Sin Corp and GL rings and technology. Or that he can make them on the fly.
Originally posted by Sirius77
People are leaving out the storyline in the gl instance.Hal and the other lanterns were amped 100x their original strength in the scenario in which they harmed henshaw. Unless you're talking about a separate instance...
Either way, henshaw wins.
the amp was to destroy the planet. hal was hurting him before that when he was destroying his body. its just a case of destroying his entire body that becomes a problem.
Originally posted by Sirius77
People are leaving out the storyline in the gl instance.Hal and the other lanterns were amped 100x their original strength in the scenario in which they harmed henshaw. Unless you're talking about a separate instance...
Either way, henshaw wins.
I was talking about this scene specifically.
As for the suits. Those suits powered a GL, to become planet wrekers. Nova Prime has the capacity to wreck a star. I would think Nova could do a tad more damage than Arisia.
Originally posted by "Id"I would think Nova couldn't do more damage than a bloodlusted Guardian trying to vaporize Henshaw, no? Or wait, am I distracting your "I use the highest for Nova and lowest for Henshaw" routine?
I was talking about this scene specifically.As for the suits. Those suits powered a GL, to become planet wrekers. Nova Prime has the capacity to wreck a star. I would think Nova could do a tad more damage than Arisia.
Yo.
when Nova got taken over by the Phallanx, WM was fighting a (slowly but surely) *losing* war of attrition inside, so saying it would hold of HH as if it could do so indefinitely is incorrect, and as for Ultron I tbch dont remember it even trying to do so, so that not really a feat for Rich, nor a slight against that 'bot; it just means the attempt wasnt made.
as for this fight, if HH senses that his suit is tech, he gonna attempt to take it over, but the key factor is:
1) how long would it take him, 2) can WM fight him off, and 3) wat will Rich be able to do in the meanwhile?
Im not sure about #1, #2 doesnt look too viable given past showings, and I dont see much happening in the 3rd scenario.
but in a straight (no taking-the-suit battle), Id give the nudge to HH but its a pretty good fight.
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.when Nova got taken over by the Phallanx, WM was fighting a (slowly but surely) *losing* war of attrition inside, so saying it would hold of HH as if it could do so indefinitely is incorrect, and as for Ultron I tbch dont remember it even trying to do so, so that not really a feat for Rich, nor a slight against that 'bot; it just means the attempt wasnt made.
as for this fight, if HH senses that his suit is tech, he gonna attempt to take it over, but the key factor is:
1) how long would it take him, 2) can WM fight him off, and 3) wat will Rich be able to do in the meanwhile?
Im not sure about #1, #2 doesnt look too viable given past showings, and I dont see much happening in the 3rd scenario.
When the group of heroes had Ultron on the ropes, he didnt attempt to "take over" NP/WM. Instead he tiok control of the cyborg chic. Praxagora?? This leads me to believe he prolly cant. If it was sooo easy to use "technopathy" on NP, Ultron would not hesitate to control such a vast well of power source like thw Nova force...
but in a straight (no taking-the-suit battle), Id give the nudge to HH but its a pretty good fight.
Accidentally put reply in ure quote..
Tazer
