Cosmic Gouki X Pyron (limited)

Not to mention the jobbing.

It's really hard 2 say that Pyron would lose or win ANYTHING @ 100% win he has never been shown, close 2 that lvl of his own power. Even the feats and the abilities we R told about can B accomplished @ his planet sized lvls.

If we go by his CFE back story, Pyron could GOOF around with whole dimensional planes.

Galactus is barely shown that way either, he's generally shown as a jobber unfortunately.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He's an upper level Darkstalkers.

Heralds hold up to Galactus when he jobs.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Pyron is "limited" in this thread. I guess that means small and terrestrial like he appears in the games. True Pyron would destroy this Akuma.

4th strongest from the top when includin playable characters. Pretty far from the top when including "all" important characters. Mind you, based only on what we know. I or Frisky can tell you that the plot of DS is heavily incomplete.

Pyron is really powerful, however, he lacks spiritual and magical abilities. DS characters have those sorts of powers in spades. CFE, tho. Dude is like some sort of God. And I'm really subject to say that he's showin canon ability in that game.

I don't really have a reference point for Darkstalkers since I don't know much about them.

Idk enough about Surf and Galactus to make a comparison, so beats me. What's the 'greatest' thing they've ever done so I would have somethin to go on?

I mean, Pyron could step on Galaxies and there isn't really a limit to how much he can consume, since he is said to be able to eat the entire universe, eventually.

He also managed to reach the corners of the universe and back in a very human amount of time.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I meant where do you rank him in relation to characters like Galactus or Surfer.

I don't really have a reference point for Darkstalkers since I don't know much about them.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Idk enough about Surf and Galactus to make a comparison, so beats me. What's the 'greatest' thing they've ever done so I would have somethin to go on?

I mean, Pyron could step on Galaxies and there isn't really a limit to how much he can consume, since he is said to be able to eat the entire universe, eventually.

He also managed to reach the corners of the universe and back in a very human amount of time.

Galactus's status seems more like a ranking issue rather than outright feats. He did blow up 3 solar systems and wasn't at full capacity though. It's implied he's well beyond that at full power and he asserts himself against guys like Thanos and High Evolutionary occassionally. The only time I recall him ever seeming hurt/losing was in a fight against Phoenix. Based on C-master's response, it seems like Pyron is around here somewhere.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
At least mid Galactus. Peers around that.

I'd say they are around peers overall. But going by feats I know he's done some solid Galactus stuff.

On a physical level at least, he'd wreck an average Galactus.

Possibly. Be hard explaining that in comic versus.

So you think he's arguably better than Big G?

Originally posted by StyleTime
Gotcha. Creating black holes just from firing an energy blast is a good feat people like to bring up with Surfer; however, it sounds like Pyron is probably above him in power. Being a universe level threat is greater than typical Surfer.

Galactus's status seems more like a ranking issue rather than outright feats. He did blow up 3 solar systems and wasn't at full capacity though. It's implied he's well beyond that at full power and he asserts himself against guys like Thanos and High Evolutionary occassionally. The only time I recall him ever seeming hurt/losing was in a fight against Phoenix. Based on C-master's response, it seems like Pyron is around here somewhere.

I think Pyron would kill Surfer. Pyron can make multiple mega stars hyper/super nova just thru will. And that's after he shrinks them and teleports them across a series of galaxies N matter of seconds. After he does this, he can recreate them and put them back again. This can actually B done N his most weakest form, thru an attack called Cosmo Disruption.

Pyron would B able 2 erase Galaxy just by kicking it. With his matter manip @ larger size, he should B able 2 wipe out a series of Galaxies thru only his will 2 do so.

I agreed it sounds like Pyron is above Surfer.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
At least mid Galactus. Peers around that.

As badly we would like 2, what I and, I think, No End R trying 2 get across is, U CAN'T place him anywhere N a Marvel tier list. He has NEVER been shown @ full power. Not @ all, not ever even close.

We would B placing him N these spots based off of thing he can do hog tied. Everything we have stated thus far R things that R N the very nature of his being. These R things he does naturally on a normal bases 2 bring Ntertainment 2 his boring life.

Right, on a comparative scale. But we can guess what we no he can do, without applying a no-limit fallacy.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Right, on a comparative scale. But we can guess what we no he can do, without applying a no-limit fallacy.

But we can't guess Bcause we no that there is an unfathomable gap Btween what we have seen him do, and what he can do if he wanted 2.

The gap so is large that N the JP CFE, win he merges multiple dimensions: Ncluding the past, present, and the future of the same universes all to 1 point out of sheer boredom, it doesn't seem out of his realm of power, @ all. Bcause what we no about his power is so vague.

So are we saying we can't use him in debates? Very few characters show their true best. We can say that it is likely that they are in the same league and that a herald level character stands no chance.

Galactus at his strongest theoretical level is apparently an Omniversal thread, at least if I am remembering Mr. Master's Marvel tiers thread correctly.

We can safely assume that is far above Pyron, but I could be remembering wrong.

Pyron's best feats are on a galactic+ level, not counting CFE apparently though.

To be honest, based on actual feats, the only character in DS rivaling Pyron is Jedah, IMHO.

Yea, and that is theory. Which is why I said that he is probably better than average, considering the jobbing.

What about Morrigan full potential? I guess you are saying that featwise.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea, and that is theory. Which is why I said that he is probably better than average, considering the jobbing.

What about Morrigan full potential? I guess you are saying that featwise.

Wearing little "clothing"?