Zeus vs Mutants Gauntlet

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Originally posted by GRIMNIR
you talk good sense 👆

as for Zeus>>>>>>>>>Olympian. In my opinion this is too great a power difference.
Zeus>>Hercules>>Olympian makes more sense to me.
Is there an origin or explanation as to why Zeus is considered>>>>>>>>>>>>Olympian, or has it just escalated to that gap because of many stories constantly upgrading power?

it comes from mithology actually, he simply is the strongest, wisest god and king of the others.

I think should have
LT>>Eternity>>>>Celestials>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Earth based characters
Then for mutants have them in some kind of class system 1 to 5
Class 5 - Scarlet Witch
Class 4 - Apocalypse
and so on
Then Zeus I would put on a par with class 3 or 4. I dont think he should be placed above most mutants just because he is Olympian.
His power list does not even sound impressive compared to others.
Lots of stories are full of PIS no when everyone always uses feats and fights to organise the tier, its not very reliable.
Its almost like people still worship as a God, he not God he just another being from different dimension. Mutant humans are not inferior. [/B]
well, let's look at odin who is an equal to zeus in power and status from another pantheon. he has destroyed several galaxies, created dimensions, stopped the flow of time, etc. he is far far above apocalypse. it1s true that zeus has less feats and has apperaed less times in comics, but he is treated as a peer to odin and as far above thor. apocalypse in my opinion is a midlevel herald. thor is more powerfull than him and skyfathers like zeus and his father can cruish him.

Originally posted by GRIMNIR
you talk good sense 👆

as for Zeus>>>>>>>>>Olympian. In my opinion this is too great a power difference.
Zeus>>Hercules>>Olympian makes more sense to me.

Originally posted by 753
it comes from mithology actually, he simply is the strongest, wisest god and king of the others.
well, let's look at odin who is an equal to zeus in power and status from another pantheon. he has destroyed several galaxies, created dimensions, stopped the flow of time, etc. he is far far above apocalypse. it1s true that zeus has less feats and has apperaed less times in comics, but he is treated as a peer to odin and as far above thor. apocalypse in my opinion is a midlevel herald. thor is more powerfull than him and skyfathers like zeus and his father can cruish him.

This is a big problem I have.

I am big fan of Odin. Look at my user name if not believe me.

But not a fan of Odin who can destroy galaxies, I dont like this version of Odin as he is much too powerful.

So I regard destroying galaxies as PIS by ANY character not an entity.
Celestials maybe, but not even them really.

If you think about how large a galaxy is, it is ridiculous that Odin or anyone can destroy a galaxy or even part of a galaxy.
He should not even destroy planets nevermind galaxies.

Galactus can destroy planets and feeds off the energy, dont have problem with this as he is an entity of sorts and a face of LT.

They need to keep the powers in check or they became stupid caricatures.

Originally posted by GRIMNIR
This is a big problem I have.

I am big fan of Odin. Look at my user name if not believe me.

But not a fan of Odin who can destroy galaxies, I dont like this version of Odin as he is much too powerful.

So I regard destroying galaxies as PIS by ANY character not an entity.
Celestials maybe, but not even them really.

If you think about how large a galaxy is, it is ridiculous that Odin or anyone can destroy a galaxy or even part of a galaxy.
He should not even destroy planets nevermind galaxies.

Galactus can destroy planets and feeds off the energy, dont have problem with this as he is an entity of sorts and a face of LT.

They need to keep the powers in check or they became stupid caricatures.

👆

Join the club. LordofMurder and I have been saying this for a while now. They need to retcon the entire Marvel universe and start over like DC does every decade or so.

Originally posted by 753
it comes from mithology actually, he simply is the strongest, wisest god and king of the others.
well, let's look at odin who is an equal to zeus in power and status from another pantheon. he has destroyed several galaxies, created dimensions, stopped the flow of time, etc. he is far far above apocalypse. it1s true that zeus has less feats and has apperaed less times in comics, but he is treated as a peer to odin and as far above thor. apocalypse in my opinion is a midlevel herald. thor is more powerfull than him and skyfathers like zeus and his father can cruish him.

Name one mid-herald that can effortlessly stomp the living shit out of herald levelers like Ikaris and Stryfe without some haxx.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Name one mid-herald that can effortlessly stomp the living shit out of herald levelers like Ikaris and Stryfe without some haxx.

Lol. Ikaris and Stryfe are herald level?

Black Bolt

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Name one mid-herald that can effortlessly stomp the living shit out of herald levelers like Ikaris and Stryfe without some haxx.
1. Magneto could pawn those two and I'd say he is an upper crust midherald just like poccy.

2. Ikaris and Stryfe don't really have feats to place them in the high herald class either. Godcable (who was still below the SS)>>>Stryfe, even though they should be the same and Ikaris is mid at best too.

Hercules isnt the most powerful olympion after zeus.... in fact all the major olympions save ares are more powerful than him

Sw can take him

the rest cant

Looking at those scans, I finally see why Herc hates his old man. Zeus being a dick in comics isn't a new thing. If this is how he's acted, I honestly wish the Hulk had beat him. Zeus is someone who deserves to be humbled.

Sadly, this bunch isn't doing it. Give Apocalypse alot of prep, maybe he could cobble something like the twelve together.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Looking at those scans, I finally see why Herc hates his old man. Zeus being a dick in comics isn't a new thing. If this is how he's acted, I honestly wish the Hulk had beat him. Zeus is someone who deserves to be humbled.

Sadly, this bunch isn't doing it. Give Apocalypse alot of prep, maybe he could cobble something like the twelve together.

He has done no worse than Odin or Darkseid have done to their sons.

Don't even try to compare him to Darkseid. durlaugh DS assasinated his own son with a bullet fired backwards in time. Hell, that was after Orion tore his heart out.

Odin? AFAIK, he's not even that bad.