Fist Fight Tournament

Originally posted by Newjak
Well since the Skyfathers can amp they'll beat anyone here except for classic Cain.

Cain in all likely hood could win simply by being able to outlast his opponents depending on how long you feel the skyfathers can fight.

so they can "amp" their strength conveniently enough to be stronger than all the other characters, but for some reason cannot "amp" enough to beat Juggernaut

Makes absolutely no sense at all.

Hercules is stronger than Zeus
Thor is stronger than Odin

Even when they amp they still not as physically strong as Hercules and Thor.

People constantly go on about feats as if that matter when half the comics are full of PIS.

If Thor and Hercules are NOT strongest Asgardian nd Olympian, then why it is stated that they are.

How about when Thor's physical strength feats are things like lifting a huge serpent which is god knows how heavy.
Odin base strength is about what 80 tons 100 tons, so when he amps he amps all the way upto being able to lift that same serpent with his little finger or something?

Thor lifting the serpent is PIS anyway point is that Thor has always been the strongest PHYSICALLY and Hercules the same.

Zeus and Odin are more powerful using all their powers available butr they not physically stronger AT ALL 😛

Originally posted by GRIMNIR
so they can "amp" their strength conveniently enough to be stronger than all the other characters, but for some reason cannot "amp" enough to beat Juggernaut

Makes absolutely no sense at all.

Hercules is stronger than Zeus
Thor is stronger than Odin

Even when they amp they still not as physically strong as Hercules and Thor.

People constantly go on about feats as if that matter when half the comics are full of PIS.

If Thor and Hercules are NOT strongest Asgardian nd Olympian, then why it is stated that they are.

How about when Thor's physical strength feats are things like lifting a huge serpent which is god knows how heavy.
Odin base strength is about what 80 tons 100 tons, so when he amps he amps all the way upto being able to lift that same serpent with his little finger or something?

Thor lifting the serpent is PIS anyway point is that Thor has always been the strongest PHYSICALLY and Hercules the same.

Zeus and Odin are more powerful using all their powers available butr they not physically stronger AT ALL 😛

Odin has on numerous occasions put Thor down physically.

You can disagree all you want Zeus/Odin on panel dominate their boys in H2H.

And the only reason I say Cain would survive is because his durability is just that insane. He won't be doing damage to the gods. He could only possibly outlast them.

Originally posted by Newjak
Recently Zeus amped his strength to totally massacre Hulk in H2H.

Odin has on numerous occasions put Thor down physically.

You can disagree all you want Zeus/Odin on panel dominate their boys in H2H.

And the only reason I say Cain would survive is because his durability is just that insane. He won't be doing damage to the gods. He could only possibly outlast them.

Does not matter if it has appeared on panel

Somewhere on panel there is a story of Oblivion not being able to kill Juggernaut.
That is one of the most clear cut cases of PIS in history of Marvel.
Oblivion a cosmic entity who is virtually omnipotent cannot destroy an AVATAR of a being far less powerful than itself. My mind boggling to comprehend just as crazy that is.
Another one is there was a story where Zeus and Odin and maybe some others take on a Celestial, they throw everything at it, use all their power and the Celestial does not even flinch. Then they acknowledge the Celestials are far more powerful.
Later on though Thor takes it to a few Celestials on his own.
So it was established that Celestials>>>>>>shkyfarvers. But then Mighty Thor who everyone seems to think is not only less powerful overall but not even stronger. Somehow he fairs much better on his own.
OMG I feel like I am in twilight zone.
There are so many other examples of ridiculous loony tunes storylines i comics.
Just because a story is on panel means nothing.
If the story makes sense and is consistent then it is a good story, everything else is PIS from a writer on drugs

Odin and Zeus fight for the win. They are so far out of anyone else here's league that its ridiculous. And NO. Cain would stand no chance against either of them. The constant Juggernaut wanking on this site is out of control. Thor with just a portion of the OF was able to survive what was basically a brawl with Bor. I would give the win to Odin just because I think he has more of a warrior nature than Zeus. I mean, this is a guy that for 1,000s of years was expecting to die in the jaws of a wolf and was looking forward to the battle for the sake of a fight.

Originally posted by GRIMNIR
Last 2 sentences made me laugh picturing the fight. Zeus beating a brain-damaged Hercules who had vacant expression and tongue hanging out.

😆

I dont care if they issued a comic and on every page it said Zeus is now stronger than Hercules in capital letters. I would look at it and say PIS PIS PIS.....

Hercules physically stronger than Zeus.

Zeus more powerful than Hercules.

Thor physically stronger than Odin.

Odin more powerful than Thor.

My Universe is lot more interesting 💃

Your Universe is delusional.

Also look at what Zeus did to Hulk's healing factor in that fist fight. Has Juggernaut ever accomplished that?

Zeus or Odin would beat Cain down.

Juggernaut out lasts them all.

Originally posted by GRIMNIR
You really have a hard on for shkyfarvers

Explain why shkyfarvers in H2H beat all the other characters. They cannot use any powers apart from H2H combat.

You place shkyfarvers too high and you make them a ridiculous joke.

Who wins Celestials or shkyfarvers?
Who wins Galactus or shkyfarvers?
Who wins Phoenix Force or shkyfarvers?

Bet you say something like

well with prep shkyfarvers are in with a shout and could hold their own for a while

I have a hard on for skyfathers? News to me.

They can amp using the same power that sustains their realms/pantheons/etc. They then beat down whom they're fighting.

What? Are you seriously asking me that? Skyfathers lose. Don't know about shkyfarvers, though.

You mad, son?

Originally posted by GRIMNIR
Does not matter if it has appeared on panel

Yeah, you mad.

Zeus at his base level without using his powers to amp him is not as Strong as Hercules, that much is fact, Zeus in most handbooks has been listed as class 90 without using his powers to amp his physical strength, this is stronger than all other Olympians save for Hercules but that is at base level.

If you think a Skyfather who has the power to take away Hercules immortal strength cannot amp himself to be stronger than Hercules then you would be incorrect.

They have fought in an alternate universe and Hercules won, partly though because Zeus wanted him to win because he was to start a new race of Gods, up until Hercules finally began to fight back seriously Zeus was beating Hercules in hand to hand just as badly as he beat Hulk.

Hercules in that universe was no stronger than Hercules in the 616 universe so no reason to think Zeus can't take Herc, he can if the OP is allowing Odin and Zeus to amp.

It comes down to Odin vs Zeus in the final imo.

The official handbooks have lots of errors in them. Lots.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
The official handbooks have lots of errors in them. Lots.

QFT.

Why put thor against Odin?

thor gets destroyed.