Originally posted by h1a8
Not only did Harald not flinch from the full power of Thor but both of Thor's wrists were broken (the wrist bone snapped). It would take at least several magnitudes more power to get Harald to be affected. Thanos is not several magnitudes more powerful than Thor.
Thor broke his wrists because:
- Mjolnir his way more durable than his own arms.
- Harald is way more durable than Thor is.
- Thor hit him in an angle that will damage his own arms too.
Harald isn't stronger than Thor physically.
Harald is vastly weaker than Thanos physically and he has a lot more powers at his disposal and knowledge.
Harald can be killed by his own weapons, equipment that has been heightened by his own curse.
That's a piece of cake for Thanos to win that match.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Thor broke his wrists because:- Mjolnir his way more durable than his own arms.
- Harald is way more durable than Thor is.
- Thor hit him in an angle that will damage his own arms too.Harald isn't stronger than Thor physically.
Harald is vastly weaker than Thanos physically and he has a lot more powers at his disposal and knowledge.
Harald can be killed by his own weapons, equipment that has been heightened by his own curse.
That's a piece of cake for Thanos to win that match.
You have no conclusive proof that Harald isn't significantly stronger. The writer was portraying such Imo.
Thanos wouldn't be able to harm Harald. Harald wouldn't even flinch.
Prove that Harald's weapons could harm himself.
Because if that was true then the writer would have shown it.
Originally posted by h1a8
You have no conclusive proof that Harald isn't significantly stronger. The writer was portraying such Imo.
The burden of proof is on you to prove that Harald is signicantly stronger, which isn't the case in the comics.
His best feat is throw a car away and to beat the shit out of a Thor with both his wrists broken.
Thanos wouldn't be able to harm Harald. Harald wouldn't even flinch.
Based on ?
Show proof of it.
Prove that Harald's weapons could harm himself.
They are heightened by the same curse.
Strange using the same curse on the descendant of the guy whom used the rune spell were able to beat Harald.
Because if that was true then the writer would have shown it.
Thor is a moron when it came to fighting someone lese and Strange has no pratical intelligence when it cames to fighting besides the use of spells.
The only things that this story has shown about Harald is that:
- His weapons and himself are greatly heightened in terms of durability and strength by the spell.
- The Rune spells protected him against most spells that Strange nows.
That's all.
All of the assumptions of Harald winning this fight are based on pure wank and zero objectivity like 99,9999 % of the forums fights where Harald appears. 👆
Originally posted by Stoic
Harold is dead right? Doesn't Thanos have power over the dead? I could have swore I saw Harold's cousins being summoned to do battle for Thanos when he defeated the Annihilation wave on his own.
He is the Avatar of Death.
I'm not sure that he can beat all kinds of immortality.
The point of the Cancerverse is that Death was killed by a spell so people didn't die at all.
Thanos presence was a way to introduce death again in that Universe.
However Thanos mystical knowledge can be another way to deal with the Curse but I think that Thanos powers are enough.
Originally posted by meep-meepBecause Harald was really durable in a way that made no sense, and they needed Rune Magic to beat him.
I'm not seeing how Thanos loses.
It made no sense because Thor has literally swung hard enough to break his hammer before without snapping his wrists, and that wristsnap did nothing to Harald. But his kicks and headbutts proved more effective, if only a little.
Looking at it in just a bubble, Harald wins or at least he'd win the durability off. Looking at any showing where Thor hits an unbreakable or immovable force, or smashes his hammer brings the showing into question.
Then you ponder how strong Rune magic made Thor, or rather, did it just exploit a weakness? We've only seen Thor with the runes off the top of my head one other time, and he was quite powerful. Was Thor on that level? And Harald managed to fight him quite well.
So it makes it difficult to judge him as it goes against Thor's history, but it is among his only showings.
So, if Thanos just goes h2h with him, it's very likely he'd lose. Thanos has shattered far stronger bones than Thor, but he hasn't done it from being hit... no one has to my knowledge in DC and Marvel. It kind of turns into a no limits fallacy.
"Thor has hit Celestials without breaking his wrists? Tell those pussy ass Celestials to take on a real man in Harald!"
But he lacks the showings of getting seriously hurt by Thor so... he doesn't have the showings to place him. All he has is those no limit showings.
You just assume something else will work against him. Which isn't a very viable tactic. It's really not great ground to go by. On the other hand, I think his only power off the top of my mind is being somewhat strong, and being really durable, so he's not really in the best position either. I've no doubt in a comic that Thanos would tear him in half but actually proving that on the forum would be difficult because of what I said.
Maybe if I actually reread the issues I'd find something. Meh. I think that handbook bio would help shed some light on things but it's not on my phone apparently, so I can't help. I had it saved on my comp I think, but I won't look for it.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Because Harald was really durable in a way that made no sense, and they needed Rune Magic to beat him.It made no sense because Thor has literally swung hard enough to break his hammer before without snapping his wrists, and that wristsnap did nothing to Harald. But his kicks and headbutts proved more effective, if only a little.
Looking at it in just a bubble, Harald wins or at least he'd win the durability off. Looking at any showing where Thor hits an unbreakable or immovable force, or smashes his hammer brings the showing into question.
Then you ponder how strong Rune magic made Thor, or rather, did it just exploit a weakness? We've only seen Thor with the runes off the top of my head one other time, and he was quite powerful. Was Thor on that level? And Harald managed to fight him quite well.
So it makes it difficult to judge him as it goes against Thor's history, but it is among his only showings.
So, if Thanos just goes h2h with him, it's very likely he'd lose. Thanos has shattered far stronger bones than Thor, but he hasn't done it from being hit... no one has to my knowledge in DC and Marvel. It kind of turns into a no limits fallacy.
"Thor has hit Celestials without breaking his wrists? Tell those pussy ass Celestials to take on a real man in Harald!"
But he lacks the showings of getting seriously hurt by Thor so... he doesn't have the showings to place him. All he has is those no limit showings.
You just assume something else will work against him. Which isn't a very viable tactic. It's really not great ground to go by. On the other hand, I think his only power off the top of my mind is being somewhat strong, and being really durable, so he's not really in the best position either. I've no doubt in a comic that Thanos would tear him in half but actually proving that on the forum would be difficult because of what I said.
Maybe if I actually reread the issues I'd find something. Meh. I think that handbook bio would help shed some light on things but it's not on my phone apparently, so I can't help. I had it saved on my comp I think, but I won't look for it.
That mini with Herald was refreshing, to me. But I can't take it serious. Mainly, cause it made no sense like you said. It was ridiculous. Seeing Thor get thrown in the river with broken limbs like a rat was...crazy.