Without the hammer Thor doesn't stand much of a chance against Orion. I really wish they'd do a story arc where Thor mysteriously lost his hammer for like 6 months (maybe Odin is takes it away to teach Thor to stand on his own to prepare him for something), and really built up feats for him with no weapons.
Originally posted by PillarofOsirishercules>thor in h2h
Without the hammer Thor doesn't stand much of a chance against Orion. I really wish they'd do a story arc where Thor mysteriously lost his hammer for like 6 months (maybe Odin is takes it away to teach Thor to stand on his own to prepare him for something), and really built up feats for him with no weapons.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Without the hammer Thor doesn't stand much of a chance against Orion. I really wish they'd do a story arc where Thor mysteriously lost his hammer for like 6 months (maybe Odin is takes it away to teach Thor to stand on his own to prepare him for something), and really built up feats for him with no weapons.
Indeed. I love Thor, but Mjolnir is annoying as hell.
It almost *feels* like a crutch with how much he uses it.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Indeed. I love Thor, but Mjolnir is annoying as hell.It almost *feels* like a crutch with how much he uses it.
I liked in the previous volume of Thor, during the Ragnarok arc, Thor admitted he had leaned on Mjolnir too often and invoked his own godly powers. He should engage in more bouts of strength and H2H, but I'm doubtful we'll see that from Fraction's run if he plans to go a more cosmic route.
Orion is like the Hulk, meaning he's heals like crazy, basically invulnerable, doesn't tire and the astro force provides him with theoretical limitless strength. He differs from Hulk by having with super speed, reflexes and intelligence. Oh, and PC karate kid level martial arts. So yeah he'd non-consentially sodomize them both.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Without the hammer Thor doesn't stand much of a chance against Orion. I really wish they'd do a story arc where Thor mysteriously lost his hammer for like 6 months (maybe Odin is takes it away to teach Thor to stand on his own to prepare him for something), and really built up feats for him with no weapons.
Thor doesn't stand much of a chance? What the f*ck?
It has been made pretty clear how formidable Thor is without the damn thing. Arguably as formidable in hand to hand as Orion without it. If Orion wins the majority in hand to hand (I don't think he would. His most likely superior movement speed would be the greatest issue imo.), it'd be one hell of a fight with the dog being completely exhausted.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
hercules>thor in h2h
Untrue except for one particular story. Either Thor got more skilled or it's an extreme that's been forgotten. I assume that you agree with Thor being physically beyond Hercules when he gets pushed as it's been proved like twice.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Indeed. I love Thor, but Mjolnir is annoying as hell.It almost *feels* like a crutch with how much he uses it.
Yea, I really need to start posting more scans.
Characters in comics have outright claimed Thor is nothing without his hammer only to be proven wrong. Still don't get this misconception that Thor is weak without Mjolnir when it's been straight up disproved decades ago.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThor is no where near as formidable in H2h as Orion 😐. At least not skill wise
formidable in hand to hand as Orion without it.
When thor goes all out yeah hes stronger then herc. But herc is still better in h2h.
Untrue except for one particular story. Unless you also believe Thor's physically beyond Hercules when he goes all out.
Hercules is a poor man's Thor. If a writer doesn't have the balls to use Thor, they're (Or were) more likely to use stands in like Hercules, Wonder Man etc.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thor is no where near as formidable in H2h as Orion 😐. At least not skill wiseWhen thor goes all out yeah hes stronger then herc. But herc is still better in h2h.
And I'm going to the extreme? Only idiots think Thor's nowhere formidable as Orion in hand to hand. And you'd be hard pressed to prove Orion's a more skilled fighter, much less a lot more skilled.
If you think that's the case, I can live with it. There's still more evidence proving Thor being physically superior than there is proving Hercules is more skilled. That's just directly.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusdur
Hercules is a poor man's Thor. If a writer doesn't have the balls to use Thor, they're (Or were) more likely to use stands in like Hercules, Wonder Man etc.And I'm going to the extreme? Only idiots think Thor's nowhere formidable as Orion in hand to hand. And you'd be hard pressed to prove Orion's a more skilled fighter, much less a lot more skilled.
If you think that's the case, I can live with it. There's still more evidence proving Thor being physically superior than there is proving Hercules is more skilled. That's just directly.