Mace Windu -vs- Yoda

why drag EU into a canondiscussion?

What are you talking about? EU? Whats that. Plus the conclusion still stands. The book says it and every web page or book or anything like that-that you go to will say Master Windu created the seventh level of fighting. called Vapaad. Sorry.

EU (Expanded Universe) is the stuff that is not from the films or George Lucas, Windu.

It also so happens that EU is 'non-canon'- which is to say, it is NOT an official part of the actual storyline. Anything the books say is no more likely to be true than any opinion you can come up with independantly. The only stuff that is hardcore fact is that in the films or which GL says.

As opposed to the Matrix- its EU (Animatrix and computer game) is 100% canon. But with Star Wars, that is not so.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The only stuff that is hardcore fact is that in the films or which GL says.

Hay not only did it say it in the book but it did come from Goerge Lucas himself!!!! HE PASSED IT!!!

erm...no

he does not by any means control what's in the book, otherwise they would be canon too AND nothing would contradict the movies!

OMG!! I didn't say in the book, although it is there. But on the website and in the Star Wars Magazine they are not allowed to write false facts in. Goerge clarifys all of the stuff they put into there star wars magaizine's and the web site. The profiles for everyone are cleared by Goerge himself. Sorry about the confusion with the book.

one simple word: no
they're also not checked by him, that's why they keep changing all the info in the databanks: to get them together with the movie

You know what, its funny... They all say they are.

they all say what?

no not all

no, I ment if you could rephrase your previous post

Sorry, Windu, but the site and magazines are not really very well canon-checked and have contained several falsities in the past.

I have to repeat that only the films and GL's own words are canon- nothing else at all.

Though true Ushgarak, some have proven to be true not all have been false.

Yes. But the fact they cCAN be false is rather the point- they are not authoritative.

yes true. But your missing the other option too. Some are, yes? But your point is also true.

Some are but only by coincidence. They have no AUTHORITY, that is the vital bit. You cannot use them as evidence to prove anything- unlike the films.

yes but if they get authority by the man, George Lucas himself. Then it is said to be true then. Needed consent of course.

FIrstly, Darth Vader Force Choke Padme but didnt kill her. she died at childbirth. Secondly, Mace Windu was killed by Palpatine. In episode 3, he tried to arrest Palpatine but Palpatine fought back. Anakin came by and Mace got him to help arrest Palpatine. Anakin sees Mace try to kill Palpatine and since Anakin feels that Palpatine is a friend, he helps Palpatine and chops off Mace Windu's hand. Palpatine uses Force Lightning and Mace Windu blocks with his remaining arm. he flies off the building( they were fighting at the balcony)and dies (20 storey high building).

Oh and thirdly, Yoda practises Form IV. all the forms can be found at
swg.stratics.com/content/gameplay/professions/jedi/lightsaber_combat.php

(The first style is the same as sword fighting, the second is lightsaber to lightsaber combat, the third is defensive combat, the fourth is letting the Force flow in you and thus making high jumps and fast attacks, the fifth is for deflection of bullets etc. and hitting the enemy with them and ,well ,aggressive Form three, the sixth is moderate everything so its the suckiest and last is incomplete (vaapad is just an extension by Mace Windu) because it requires great skill to master. it is similar to Form four and five but needs greater strength in the Force and it is a lot like Sith fighting styles, physical and uses hatred to gain extra power.)