Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I didn't say it would weaken him to the point of being an invalid. But being in a red sun for ONE INSTANT with a red ring's shields, isn't doing shit to Prime. And how can he hold Prime there? Prime's been massively powered up when a sun ray hit his finger. In this case he's been sitting in the center of the sun for a DAY. He has shields up and those can block any red sunlight hitting him for as long as it takes.
smh...i mean seriously? Galactus would embarass the shields of a red ring and incinerate the ring itself for good measure. Oh and if Galactus doesnt want prime to move he just molecularly manips him in place. Prime beig in the sun isnt going to mean squat here. The amp itself is really ambiguous and to think it would amp him to such a degree where he would be taking out a non-jobbing galactus is nonsensical.
Galactus disperses primes molecules, blasts him to bits, drains his solar energy, mindrapes him, bfrs him to another dimension, teleports a red sun into him, teleports im into a red sun, etc etc
Superstrength,eye beams, emoness,and freeze breath is not beating galactus. end of story
Indeed his power level is ambiguous sometimes. its a good thing he has actual definitive feats of power however when well satiated to give us a good gauge of what he can do unlike primes "sundip amp"
He has shattered reality with a physical manifestationof it to punch, a red ring means squat, a sundip means squat (the energy from that will be drained instantly anyways not that it would matter). the power gem useful but cant counter any of Gs literally infinite abilities
Galactus haas jobbed to a bunch of characters true...... but Good thing he will be fighting to full potential here and wont be jobbing.
You seem to not know who SBP even is. He's taken a blast that destroyed a UNIVERSE (again, with no power gem or sundip). He's fought beings who are clearly more powerful than Galactus (such as the Anti-Monitor for one thing, or Mr. Mxy for another...and yes, I know there were circumstances). I've seen a few ambiguous instances of Galactus destroying a galaxy. I'm not saying he can't do so, but you're the one talking about feats.
But to clarify, I've never said SBP wins this fight, I was only replying to your claim that teleporting a red sun onto Prime kills him here. Which was clearly wrong for many different reasons. And to your claim that Prime can't hurt Galactus here, which again, is obviously wrong. But that's what I've come to expect from this site, where anything Marvel is automatically >>>>>>>> anything DC.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
You seem to not know who SBP even is. He's taken a blast that destroyed a UNIVERSE (again, with no power gem or sundip). He's fought beings who are clearly more powerful than Galactus (such as the Anti-Monitor for one thing, or Mr. Mxy for another...and yes, I know there were circumstances). I've seen a few ambiguous instances of Galactus destroying a galaxy. I'm not saying he can't do so, but you're the one talking about feats.But to clarify, I've never said SBP wins this fight, I was only replying to your claim that teleporting a red sun onto Prime kills him here. Which was clearly wrong for many different reasons. And to your claim that Prime can't hurt Galactus here, which again, is obviously wrong. But that's what I've come to expect from this site, where anything Marvel is automatically >>>>>>>> anything DC.
NO, i know who SBP is. IVe read IC,sinestro corps war and his appearances in the legion. Your simply making nonsensical claims and arguments, and when they get refuted, instead of defending them you swithch to bitching about Marvel being greater than DC o this forum or some other rubbish. Logical arguments are superior to whining any day of the week in terms of debates im afraid. Prime fighting Mr mxy and the antimonitor is nice, but unless u explain to us how his tactics in those battles would relate to this fight then mentioing them is just more of the empty posting you hve been doing for a while now. lol ambiguous instances of galactus destroying a galaxy? ambiguous in what way? or are u just throwing out words that u think look good on the screen? Furthermore, SBP can definitely be hurt by less than universe busting blasts so while that is a nice feat, it doesnt put him beyond Galactus range. Not to mention that feat which has to do with durability still doesnt provide a counter for many of the vast ways in which Galactus wins this, and the ones i mentioned were just off the top of my head.
You didnt show why Galactus teleporting a sun into prime was wrong. not even close so dont kid yourself. Moreover i didnt claim that Prime cant hurt Galactus if Galactus just sits there and takes his attacks. but rather that in a fight in which Galactus was actually trying to actively fight back, he would make quick work of him. You instead appealed to Galactus's jobbing to characters weaker than prime as if that has some kind of significance in a fight where the full potential rule is in effect.
....smh
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
And one other thing if you think Galactus stomps so badly, and is so much more powerful than Prime here, why do you feel the need to use the Red Sun weakness against Prime, when by your logic, big G's raw power should be able to get the win?
I mentioned other ways in which Galactus would win. Jeez, are u even reading my posts? He has other methods that are just as easy.
Originally posted by Naija boy
NO, i know who SBP is. IVe read IC,sinestro corps war and his appearances in the legion. Your simply making nonsensical claims and arguments, and when they get refuted, instead of defending them you swithch to bitching about Marvel being greater than DC o this forum or some other rubbish. Logical arguments are superior to whining any day of the week in terms of debates im afraid. Prime fighting Mr mxy and the antimonitor is nice, but unless u explain to us how his tactics in those battles would relate to this fight then mentioing them is just more of the empty posting you hve been doing for a while now. lol ambiguous instances of galactus destroying a galaxy? ambiguous in what way? or are u just throwing out words that u think look good on the screen? Furthermore, SBP can definitely be hurt by less than universe busting blasts so while that is a nice feat, it doesnt put him beyond Galactus range. Not to mention that feat which has to do with durability still doesnt provide a counter for many of the vast ways in which Galactus wins this, and the ones i mentioned were just off the top of my head.You didnt show why Galactus teleporting a sun into prime was wrong. not even close so dont kid yourself. Moreover i didnt claim that Prime cant hurt Galactus if Galactus just sits there and takes his attacks. but rather that in a fight in which Galactus was actually trying to actively fight back, he would make quick work of him. You instead appealed to Galactus's jobbing to characters weaker than prime as if that has some kind of significance in a fight where the full potential rule is in effect.
....smh
How old are you?
Superboy Prime only RFBed a very injured, severely weakened version of the Anti-Monitor and in the case of my name sake, the writer of that ish did no research into Post-Crisis 5D Imps (and even ignoring that, it was an alt version of Zatanna who did the actual damage and such to the captured Mxy and Zatanna has been shown to be able to take on Cosmic Aspects by herself, i.e. The Rogue Time Tailor).
And why have I been the only one to bring up that if Prime loses the Red Ring he's seriously boned? The ring replaces the wielder's blood and heart. No ring = death for most; even if Prime is a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian, losing his most vital organ and most of his blood would cripple him in a fight, especially one of this caliber.
First of all If supes is supposed to be high herald as it is he's already supposed to be a match for the likes of surfer. Lanterns are each mid-tier heralds and Prime wrecked a shit-ton of them. Galactus would have trouble busting a seven mile thick lantern shield whereas Prime did it with negligible ease all things considered. Now your giving him a ring, a sun-dip and the power gem.... right. I've said it before Galactus is a joke now. His standard levels seem to be barely higher than surfer at times and I've been supremely disappointed in the way that he's turned out. On the other hand Prime has man-handled nearly all of PC DC which Galactus has fallen to far less than. IMO he'd fall to future Mordru with pitiful ease and Prime laughed at him.
However if we're going to go by how the characters are intended to be Prime should get wrecked despite being a beast. (when someone can beat monarch w/Atom absorbs regardless of circumstances I'd consider that to be a massive threat especially considering that far less than what he has fought have stopped other universal threats in a straight fight.)