Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually, Thor w/PG would have taken Thanos down....that's why he used the force-block gun.
There was really no indication of a clear winner on that fight. They were taking it to each other and they were both pretty much well matched for that fight (woulda been nice if they continued it). But from my perspective, the fight would have gone either way.
He used the force-block gun because he had it and he wanted to end an inconvenience, not because he knew he'd lose.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
^ Pretty sure Thor's power was constantly increasing. Had Thanos not force blocked him in all likelihood Thor would have won.
Well, I agree with that logic. But as in any Hulk fight, it doesn't really mean that Thanos would have been unable to bring Thor down before Thor's power levels start going beyond his ability to hurt him. As steadily increasing his power was, we don't have any indication at how fast it was building.
funny how people claim odin was going all out and yet there isnt a single narration either to back their claims. if odin had gone all out as some want to imply, answer me this, why does odin look as fresh as a daisy while only thanos was looking like he got his ass kicked?
superman vs doomsday in dos is going all out..odin vs thanos? no way in hell was odin going all out.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
point me to any narration that states iron was holding back .. any... what we do know was he was pissed n wanted to put.thanos down plenty of narration there. Iron holding.back.... zero
Wanting someone defeated isn't proof that they were going all out.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
There was really no indication of a clear winner on that fight. They were taking it to each other and they were both pretty much well matched for that fight (woulda been nice if they continued it). But from my perspective, the fight would have gone either way.He used the force-block gun because he had it and he wanted to end an inconvenience, not because he knew he'd lose.
Actually, Thanos himself stated that once Thor was powerful to break out of the force-block...that they wouldn't stand a chance of beating him.
The main differences between Warrior Madness Thor and the one from Blood and Thunder are the delusions and just down right insanity. Warrior Madness Thor ranged from being blood lusted to only rage, but at least he would know friend from foe. It was still the Thor we know, except he was under layers of rage.
The Thor from Blood and Thunder? I wouldn't even call that the real Thor after he descended into the depths of the Madness. It was more of a different personality than anything. It became dominant due to the damage to Thor's psyche/essence by Odin. Every time he created a new Thor like Bill, Norvell and Eric, he weakened Thor as he took a piece of him, and placed it into them.
The inscription says that whoever wields the hammer gets the power of Thor for a reason.
However, it wasn't a split personality in the classic sense; it was more of Thor's inner rage/hatred taking manifestation. The Valkyrie was also a manifestation of this. The mind/soul of an immortal is a powerful thing.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgoI never once said iron was going all out.. never... don't try n change the subject n the.fact that there is zero narration saying odinwas holding.back like u claim. In fact, the narration points to n iron very much upset n trying.to put thanos.down. also as had been ruled on by the mode... a character not doing all he can in a fight or using al their powers doesn't.equal them not trying or holding back. So that doesn't fly.
funny how people claim odin was going all out and yet there isnt a single narration either to back their claims. if odin had gone all out as some want to imply, answer me this, why does odin look as fresh as a daisy while only thanos was looking like he got his ass kicked?superman vs doomsday in dos is going all out..odin vs thanos? no way in hell was odin going all out.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I never once said iron was going all out.. never... don't try n change the subject n the.fact that there is zero narration saying odinwas holding.back like u claim. In fact, the narration points to n iron very much upset n trying.to put thanos.down. also as had been ruled on by the mode... a character not doing all he can in a fight or using al their powers doesn't.equal them not trying or holding back. So that doesn't fly.
If he wasn't going all out; then by definition, he was holding back.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I never once said iron was going all out.. never... don't try n change the subject n the.fact that there is zero narration saying odinwas holding.back like u claim. In fact, the narration points to n iron very much upset n trying.to put thanos.down. also as had been ruled on by the mode... a character not doing all he can in a fight or using al their powers doesn't.equal them not trying or holding back. So that doesn't fly.
dude? what narrations are you talking about anyways? the only narrations i remember were the on lookers going "um...can we do and crap like that"
plus come on, you've been implying that odin was pissed, odin was mad, odin was yada yada...so yeah, nice try changing your stance but you are indeed implying that odin was going all out. and no, i'm not changing the subject. you keep on demanding for scans or narrations stating that odin was holding back when there is none. but there is also zero narration stating that odin was not holding back. plus the fact that the art and the illustration supports my stance that odin was taking it really easy on thanos.
go look at the comic again, its clear as day that thanos was putting all of his effort into beating odin but odin just casually slaps thanos away.
plus...not doing all he can or using all their powers does ....ummm...wait wut? did i really read that right? not using all their powers or not doing everything they can not equal to them not trying to hold back? really? come on...really?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The main differences between Warrior Madness Thor and the one from Blood and Thunder are the delusions and just down right insanity. Warrior Madness Thor ranged from being blood lusted to only rage, but at least he would know friend from foe. It was still the Thor we know, except he was under layers of rage.The Thor from Blood and Thunder? I wouldn't even call that the real Thor after he descended into the depths of the Madness. It was more of a different personality than anything. It became dominant due to the damage to Thor's psyche/essence by Odin. Every time he created a new Thor like Bill, Norvell and Eric, he weakened Thor as he took a piece of him, and placed it into them.
The inscription says that whoever wields the hammer gets the power of Thor for a reason.
However, it wasn't a split personality in the classic sense; it was more of Thor's inner rage/hatred taking manifestation. The Valkyrie was also a manifestation of this. The mind/soul of an immortal is a powerful thing.
speaking of red norvel, what ever happened to the guy? last i saw him was when he was talking to thor during the onslaught saga thing then nothing.
here's another question, odin kept on taking parts of thor and slapping it into other hammers..stormbreaker not so sure, but red norvell's hammer indeed had part of thor. so, if thats the case, wouldnt current thor be really weaker than his classic self before red norvell's hammer was created? since afaik, red norvell's hammer wasnt destroyed, so it must be lying around somewhere with a part of thor's power in it.
We haven't seen him since the second into the Journey Into Mystery series by Defalco when the Dark Gods attacked.
No, it was outright stated that Odin granted a portion of Thor's power to empower Beta Ray Bill. He took part of what makes him Thor. He did the same to Norvell. And placing him inside Masterson as well as Donald Blake also messed with Thor's essence.
Logically speaking, yes, Thor should be noticeably weaker if it was the power he regularly taps but I'm guessing it's more of Thor's inner godly essence that was placed into the copies. This concept was further touched upon during Thor Corps I believe.
Yeah my stupid phone keeps auto correcting to iron lol. Now, as.I stated forum rules dictate that just because someone.doesn't.use all their powers doesn't mean a character was holding back... why because then in each fight.in most comics we.could go..such n such weren't trying n could say that for pretty much every fight. Why... cause writers don't write characters using all their powers in each fight.n view how characters should n would use their powers varies writer by writer. Thus that isn't a fair premise n conclusion to draw.
Now I suggest u go re read the fight. If u don't know iron was speaking to thanos.that made it very clear he was pissed n wanted thanos down period. Even rage said this. Narration backs that up... holding back... zero
Lastly ur.being hypocritical n don't even know it... u say iron wasn't using all his.powers..he was holding back...yet thanos who didn't try mind rape.... no tk...no matter manipulation.... never used his shields... was going all out bwahaha... u don't even realize u pwned urself lol.
