Justice League Women vs. Fantastic Four

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Justice League Women vs. Fantastic Four

Vixen
Hawkgirl
Fire
Starfire

Mister Fantastic
Black Panther
Human Torch
Thing

Team 1.

Vixen>Panther
Fire<Torch
Starfire>Thing
Not sure about Mister Fantastic vs Hawkgirl, but if it comes down to Reed and Johnny vs Starfire, Hawkgirl, and Vixen then the girls will win.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Team 1.

Vixen>Panther
Fire<Torch
Starfire>Thing
Not sure about Mister Fantastic vs Hawkgirl, but if it comes down to Reed and Johnny vs Starfire, Hawkgirl, and Vixen then the girls will win.

Interesting match ups, but I saw it differently:

Vixen vs. Mr. Fantastic
Hawkgirl vs. Black Panther
....

The match that determines the win would be Mr. Fantastic vs. Vixen.. But, hey... your line up is interesting aswell.

Re: Justice League Women vs. Fantastic Four

Originally posted by aztec
Vixen
Hawkgirl
Fire
Starfire

Mister Fantastic
Black Panther
Human Torch
Thing

Depends on what abilities Vixen bring to the fight....if she mimics the powers of Gorilla Grodd, then the girls pretty much sail thought this without any problem.

nobody can take starfire 1v1 in the fantastic four team

Originally posted by MrMind
nobody can take starfire 1v1 in the fantastic four team

I wouldn't go that far....she would be really pressed to hurt the Thing and I highly doubt she in his strength class.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
I wouldn't go that far....she would be really pressed to hurt the Thing and I highly doubt she in his strength class.

starfire's on donna level, so she's at least class 100 while thing is not. starfire can definitely hurt thing by punches or energy projection
she can just fly up there and shooting starbolts get an easy win.

Yes, she was around the same as Donna's pre-rez strength, which I'd still put above Thing.

She does have her nova blast as well, which she used to kill Brainiac's ship in the TT/Outsiders crossover. That'd probably one-shot Thing, though leaving her drained in the process.

Originally posted by MrMind
starfire's on donna level, so she's at least class 100 while thing is not. starfire can definitely hurt thing by punches or energy projection
she can just fly up there and shooting starbolts get an easy win.

Who told you that? Donna is close to Diana's level, while Kory at best is 50 tons. Keep in mind that whenever Donna and Kory fought, Donna kept her speed and strength to a comparable level.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Who told you that? Donna is close to Diana's level, while Kory at best is 50 tons.

Donna right now is close to Diana's level, but back when they sparred a lot they were much closer.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Who told you that? Donna is close to Diana's level, while Kory at best is 50 tons. Keep in mind that whenever Donna and Kory fought, Donna kept her speed and strength to a comparable level.

Based on... what?
All classic (new) Teen Titans issues basically had Starfire as the team's heavy hitter. There's a reason she stopped just blasting everything after the first Trigon storyline and turned into a rage-blitzer archetype.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Who told you that? Donna is close to Diana's level, while Kory at best is 50 tons. Keep in mind that whenever Donna and Kory fought, Donna kept her speed and strength to a comparable level.

where you get the info of kory at best 50 tons? even cassie lifted a plane before.
starfire's on donna level in johns run. they fought evenly,

It's also taken multiple 100 class bruisers to hold her back on multiple occasions, she nearly laughed when Superboy and Wonder Girl thought they could match her, she tore through the enchantment of a member of the greek pantheon with her bare hands, she's punded through 100 story tall Trigon creations, she's actually soloed the Titans while possessed by Jericho, she slammed a Wonder Woman clone created by Trigon and she was out for the rest of the issue (IIRC it was him... at any rate the Titans were confronted by exact physical duplicates of JLA members), etc. etc. etc.

on topic: If Kory goes Nova it's over. Worst case scenario Johnny somehow doesn't die and Hawkgirl has to spend five seconds breaking his not-so-durable face with some archaic weaponry. Hell, even after going nova on Indigo Kory was still able to fly fast enough to blitz her/it and engage in physical combat.

Originally posted by Q99
Donna right now is close to Diana's level, but back when they sparred a lot they were much closer.

No, Kory was never on Donna’s level when it came to strength. Donna was always considered the most powerful member of the Teen Titans when it came to physical strength. Like Diana, it pretty obvious that Donna put limits on her abilities when it comes to sparring/fighting. If she didn’t the only people she would be able to fight on DC’s earth would be the Marvels, Kryptonians and her sister.

What made Kory dangerous were her starbolts, hand-to-hand skill and battle rage. While Kory possesses super-human strength, she has never done anything that puts her over the 50 tons mark. (Well to my knowledge)

Originally posted by Konton
Based on... what?
All classic (new) Teen Titans issues basically had Starfire as the team's heavy hitter. There's a reason she stopped just blasting everything after the first Trigon storyline and turned into a rage-blitzer archetype.

She is still not Donna’s equal when it comes to strength.
Originally posted by MrMind
where you get the info of kory at best 50 tons? even cassie lifted a plane before.
starfire's on donna level in johns run. they fought evenly,

Well, this is easy to solve. Show me a scan of Kory lifting something well over the Thing’s level.
Originally posted by Konton
It's also taken multiple 100 class bruisers to hold her back on multiple occasions, she nearly laughed when Superboy and Wonder Girl thought they could match her, she tore through the enchantment of a member of the greek pantheon with her bare hands, she's punded through 100 story tall Trigon creations, she's actually soloed the Titans while possessed by Jericho, she slammed a Wonder Woman clone created by Trigon and she was out for the rest of the issue (IIRC it was him... at any rate the Titans were confronted by exact physical duplicates of JLA members), etc. etc. etc.

Nothing you said puts her above the 50 ton mark. I’m not sure why you’re trying to put her on the Class 100 tons mark. Also what multiple times have Class 100 bruisers tried to hold Kory back?

Without Sue I see the F4 being at a real disadvantage, and the women have some pretty decent hitters.

Ladies ftw.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Without Sue I see the F4 being at a real disadvantage, and the women have some pretty decent hitters.

Ladies ftw.

Agreed, Sue does bring a lot of power. With Sue as part of the FF, this battle realllllllly depends on what abilities Vixen bring to the fight.