Spectre vs Saint of Killers

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
SOK's guns fail on undead. Spectre isn't technically alive. Hell, we never saw them on work on any abstract beings.
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When did they fail on the undead? He killed Satan and God with them.

They didn't kill a vampire.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
They didn't kill a vampire.

Interesting I don't remember Cassidy getting shot, just beat up.

Edit: You're right! Cassidy is the only person to have ever survived.

Quote: The only being ever to have survived being shot by the Saint was Cassidy, but Garth Ennis later admitted that he was still working out the character of the Saint at that point and was a technical mistake.

Yeah I ignore the Cassidy incident.

Still, I stand by that Spectre would win, mostly because Preacherverse God (off his throne, on his throne he's a Universal Abstract) is an unknown quantity so the efficacy of killing him is difficult to assess, he could be Skyfather, he could be Abstract, he could be next to powerless, who knows.

SoK couldnt even kill Cassidy and hes supposed to kill Spectre?

Spectre is a ghost. SoK can do nothing to him

Hell, even Deadman would stalemate

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He killed demons and angels, the fact he didn't kill Cass was confirmed by the writer to be PIS because he didn't want Cassidy to die yet.

Kid can't read.

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i had only read p1

Originally posted by Solidus Black
i had only read p1

Cause the Saint is gonna blow his fricken brains out and the Presence wont know what hit it.

I've only seen one weapon able to kill Spectre. The Spear of Destiny itself.

SOK isn't doing that much damage.

Also, I don't know if Deadman can be killed period. Back when he was dead anyway. He's alive as a white lantern currently.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
SOK's guns fail on undead. Spectre isn't technically alive. Hell, we never saw them on work on any abstract beings.

Therefore..... I do not believe they will work on God's vengeance. Especially considering Spectre alone shits on Preacher God's feats.

I don't see the Spectre standing up to him long at all.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I've only seen one weapon able to kill Spectre. The Spear of Destiny itself.

SOK isn't doing that much damage.

Also, I don't know if Deadman can be killed period. Back when he was dead anyway. He's alive as a white lantern currently.

Even the SOD has a hard time killing Spectre and isn't full proof.

Are you refering to FC: Revelations? Because that's not the only time someone has threatened to use it on Spectre. And it's pretty clearly stated that it can kill him.

No, way before that. PC era. It failed to kill the Spectre a couple of times. It has the power, but isn't a guarantee.

I'm pretty sure one time when Superman had it post-crisis, I think this was when Spectre was facing down an elemental of some kind.

Superman was warned the spear would kill Spectre. and he almost used it, but he managed to resist the corruption.

The SOD is probably the most blatant plot device in DC. They used it to explain why WWII didn't last two panels with the JSA on the side of America.

Considering the power ascribed to it, and what it was shown to do in FC: Revelations, yeah, it's a plot device. But a monstrous one.

For those not in the know: The Spear of destiny was used in combination with a spell created by a sorcerer from Japan known as "The Dragon King" I believe. Anyways, the spell in combination with the spear and the holy grail, created a sphere of influence over all Axis territory. Any allied super-powered beings up and including Spectre himself, would fall under axis mind control if they entered. The Spear nearly killed Spectre at one point during the war.

Eventually, the unknown soldier assasinated Hitler and smuggled the Spear out. Shortly after, the Axis collapsed and he faked Hitler's suicide.

The spear was used to kill christ, and has the power to kill just about anything. And as shown in FC, it can control super powered beings. And due to Hitler's evil, the spear has been corrupted and will turn anyone who wields it to evil eventually. Only Captain Marvel has been shown to have any long term resistance. Superman resisted it for a time, but after being tempted to kill Spectre, he chucked it into space.

Edit: Found it.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090122022535/marvel_dc/images/a/a5/Spear_of_Destiny_002.jpg

Is Cain (the one that appeared in Final Crisis: Revelations) immortal? 'Cause I recall him surviving after getting cut by the Spear of Destiny without any major injuries.