Originally posted by carver9
World Breaker Hulk doesn't need any amps IMO to beat Prime. He is physically above Herald (just like Prime) and I would give Prime the edge if he wasn't just a brawler but he is.So under normal circumstance... WB Hulk 6 or 7/10, with any type of amps, its a stomp.
Originally posted by carver9
@icemanShow me Prime using his speed ONE TIME during combat minus his spin around attack against the flash and you have a argument.
Lex Luthor was completely useless against Prime's speed, and Luthor's armor is AT LEAST as fast as Hulk and his sensors are AT LEAST as good as Hulk's senses.
without any amping, Prime beats Worldbreaker Hulk 10/10 times. With the power gem, he's not much higher than Drax with the gem, and Thor handled him. I'd have a hard time seeing Hulk doing enough damage to put Prime down. Not only that but Prime can just take the gem away. So I'd give this fight to Prime still.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
without any amping, Prime beats Worldbreaker Hulk 10/10 times. With the power gem, he's not much higher than Drax with the gem, and Thor handled him. I'd have a hard time seeing Hulk doing enough damage to put Prime down. Not only that but Prime can just take the gem away. So I'd give this fight to Prime still.
What are you talking about?
Originally posted by carver9
So this feat is proof that Hulk can't touch him?😕
You asked for a speed feat, I gave you one.
Considering Kal and Kal were moving at FTL speeds through space and Prime was fast enough to strike both of them seperately and considering their actual combat reflexes they both have, it shows Prime being able to outmove two beings of colossal strength and excessive speed struggling against him at once.
Concerning this actual fight...
If this degrades into a slug fest, I don't see how Prime can win this, tbh. Worldbreaker Hulk is at the peak of his physical strength presumably and stronger than WWH and Savage Hulk. Considering their own feats under their belts, those Hulks would be able to hurt Prime. Not enough to win, for sure, but based on what has hurt Prime, they could cause him physical pain.
Now, based on recent showings, the Hood, someone who was said, implied, and shown to be arguably the least skilled person in possession of the Power Gem was able to utterly destroy the Rulk with said gem, we get a clear measuring stick to which the gem amplifies a total feeb's strength. Now, if we assume WBH is no more proficient than Parker Robbins, the gem would increase his already great strength to levels which are pretty wild to conceive. I honestly don't see how that level of strength wouldn't hurt Prime based on what has hurt Prime.
The Red Lantern Ring isn't all that essential, here, tbh.
Anyway, Prime taking the gem back with his speed would be probable if Prime knew what it was or somehow deduced it was amping Hulk further. In any case, regardless of who wins here, I don't see how people can say Prime wouldn't be hurt in a slug fest with this Hulk.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You asked for a speed feat, I gave you one.Considering Kal and Kal were moving at FTL speeds through space and Prime was fast enough to strike both of them seperately and considering their actual combat reflexes they both have, it shows Prime being able to outmove two beings of colossal strength and excessive speed struggling against him at once.
I think you are kind of over exaggerating with that feat a bit Jake. That's like me saying "Gladiator grabbed Hulk and was flying with him at light speed but before Glads got the chance to hit space so that Hulk could suffocate and Hulk knowing Glad intentions, Hulk thunder claps his ears". So since Glads was moving at "c" and Hulk prevented Glads from achieving his goal and thunderclapped him before reaching space, Hulk has FTL reflexes.
Not a good example Jake.
Originally posted by carver9
I think you are kind of over exaggerating with that feat a bit Jake. That's like me saying "Gladiator grabbed Hulk and was flying with him at light speed but before Glads got the chance to hit space so that Hulk could suffocate and Hulk knowing Glad intentions, Hulk thunder claps his ears". So since Glads was moving at "c" and Hulk prevented Glads from achieving his goal and thunderclapped him before reaching space, Hulk has FTL reflexes.Not a good example Jake.
Well, no that's not a good example as what you said as:
A.) The Supermen were already in flight.
B.) Kal-El and Kal-L have legitimate speed feats in terms of actual combat.
C.) Prime managed to strike both of them in spite of him being tackled toward Rao, displaying speed that they couldn't counter in that instant.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, no that's not a good example as what you said as:A.) The Supermen were already in flight.
B.) Kal-El and Kal-L have legitimate speed feats in terms of actual combat.
C.) Prime managed to strike both of them in spite of him being tackled toward Rao, displaying speed that they couldn't counter in that instant.
Omg...
What about Hulk grabbing a boulder and hitting a speeding Surfer with it that was flying at light. With that said... using this argument, Hulk can perceive things at light and hit them as well?
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Originally posted by PillarofOsirisWhy do people remember thor smacking drax around when not 4 comics earlier, Drax was easily handling a bloodlusted thor and thought they were playing 😬?
without any amping, Prime beats Worldbreaker Hulk 10/10 times. With the power gem, he's not much higher than Drax with the gem, and Thor handled him. I'd have a hard time seeing Hulk doing enough damage to put Prime down. Not only that but Prime can just take the gem away. So I'd give this fight to Prime still.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
without any amping, Prime beats Worldbreaker Hulk 10/10 times. With the power gem, he's not much higher than Drax with the gem, and Thor handled him. I'd have a hard time seeing Hulk doing enough damage to put Prime down. Not only that but Prime can just take the gem away. So I'd give this fight to Prime still.
You aren't very smart.