Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganHis grenades are standard, and they stunned the entire jla and ko'd superboy. DS 10-10. way faster way smarter way stronger way better weapons. Just better. Oh, and didn't TM nearly die when he went 2x faster than human? either way he can't who. not one round.
slades standard weapons can not hurt high heralds, that an absurd claim.
LP: Tasky can do his super speed trick, but it drains him. Unfortunately, Slade is good enough that TM can't outskill him. Not to mention copying Slade's style is useless. His enhancements are a large part of his style. A normal human can't do it because the way he fights is too stressful for a normal human body. He moves like spider man.
Dum dum: What LP said. And his staff has pierced Hal's ring shield.
Originally posted by long pig
His grenades are standard, and they stunned the entire jla and ko'd superboy. DS 10-10. way faster way smarter way stronger way better weapons. Just better. Oh, and didn't TM nearly die when he went 2x faster than human? either way he can't who. not one round.
Originally posted by iceman24567
His staff isnt standard gear but grenades I beg to differ he keeps those in his belt pocket thing hes pulled them out on more than three occasions
standard equipment is what they use day to day consistently. Not items they rarely use when the plot calls for it.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganI dont agree hes show to use them enough thats its standard what rules say he must use it on a daily basis for it to be standard? So Batman cryopellets aren't standard he probably hasnt used them in his last dozen appearances?
just because he pulled them out on more then three occassions does not make them standard gear. If that was the case batman would be on a whole different level.standard equipment is what they use day to day consistently. Not items they rarely use when the plot calls for it.
Originally posted by long pig
TM is like batgirl. Neither one can read or copy his moves. And skillwise, anyone who loses his powers, and is down to regular human ability and can STILL beats the hell out of batman is one skilled mofo.
Slade had his powers both times he fought Batman solo...
Taskmaster could conceivable win, but he'd have to work for it and that isn't something Taskmaster likes to do. CIS on Slade puts on the heat and Taskmaster runs away, CIS off... well... he is essentially fighting a less skilled Captain America, Taskmaster should win.
Originally posted by srankmissingninI can agree with that assessment for the most part. I don't think Slade isn't necessarily less skilled (than Cap) by any wide margin, but I would give Cap the ultimate skill edge.
Slade had his powers both times he fought Batman solo...Taskmaster could conceivable win, but he'd have to work for it and that isn't something Taskmaster likes to do. CIS on Slade puts on the heat and Taskmaster runs away, CIS off... well... he is essentially fighting a less skilled Captain America, Taskmaster should win.
I think Slade makes up for it with sheer force though, as he fights to win by any means necessary, and while I think he's less skilled than Cap, I would argue that he's more dangerous overall. Weapons and attitude taken into account.
I suppose if we're talking CIS off though, that's a removal of personality and maybe weighing Slade's tactics against Cap's wouldn't be relevant.
Originally posted by iceman24567
I dont agree hes show to use them enough thats its standard what rules say he must use it on a daily basis for it to be standard? So Batman cryopellets aren't standard he probably hasnt used them in his last dozen appearances?
Slade does not use his granades capable of hurt heralds anywhere near consistently enough to try and pretend it standard equipment.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganWell, we don't see whether they're "high herald hurting" grenades when they're used, but I was under the impression that he uses grenades with some frequency.
By your logic wolverine has two maigcal swords, plus knifes and guns as standard equiptment.Slade does not use his granades capable of hurt heralds anywhere near consistently enough to try and pretend it standard equipment.
He also has pulled them out on the fly in the past, so it's not quite the same as Wolverine's magic swords, as we're given the impression that they were on his person at the right moment and came in handy, as opposed to being a very specific non-standard story item.
It's all speculation though.
Originally posted by Existere
Well, we don't see whether they're "high herald hurting" grenades when they're used, but I was under the impression that he uses grenades with some frequency.He also has pulled them out on the fly in the past, so it's not quite the same as Wolverine's magic swords, as we're given the impression that they were on his person at the right moment and came in handy, as opposed to being a very specific non-standard story item.
It's all speculation though.
You do realize you just stated what batman does all the time, by such logic anything batman has every pulled out would be usable and that make him several tier above his current status.
Not really, it pretty easy to see what standard gear and whats not. Wolverien actually consistently used his sword more so then slade has used granades capable of hurting heralds. So what now wolverien magical sword is standard gear? come on people it not hard to tell whats standard and whats not.
Other than koing Superboy (and at the same time failing to ko Robin), there was no indication that it was anything other than a standard grenedae. I suppose we could just assume that it was a "super grenade!" (pat. pending)... but it's more likely PIS that Superboy was koed by a standard issue grenade.
@Existere: Slade has been soundly outfought by Nightwing on more than one occasion. It is his stats that make him formidable, not his skill, Slade isn't even in the same ball park as Steve Rogers in h2h skill.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Slade had his powers both times he fought Batman solo...Taskmaster could conceivable win, but he'd have to work for it and that isn't something Taskmaster likes to do. CIS on Slade puts on the heat and Taskmaster runs away, CIS off... well... he is essentially fighting a less skilled Captain America, Taskmaster should win.
Less skilled? Ok. But he's got far better stats and he's much faster on his reaction time.
This isn't a good fight for Taskmaster.