Originally posted by Starscream M
wow, why even have a justice league...flash can do pretty much everything, riiiight? 🙄
I'm not sure how you got that out of my post which only went to clarifying the Flash's durability.
But somehow I guess that I implied the Flash has magic, flight, super strength, telepathy, strategic genius, energy manipulation, etc. etc.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiriswell he doesn't need those
I'm not sure how you got that out of my post which only went to clarifying the Flash's durability.But somehow I guess that I implied the Flash has magic, flight, super strength, telepathy, strategic genius, energy manipulation, etc. etc.
most of the villains that give JLA trouble would be statues to him wouldn't they
Originally posted by Starscream MCIS off PIS off he moves at the absolute limit of how fast something can move... Even if hulk moved at light speed/time travel speed/ dimensional break speed, he'd still be a snail if Flash decided to speed force break
flash is not unhittable in comics. nor should we represent him as such here. or else you're not debating flash, but merely his powerset.
Originally posted by Uriel005
CIS off PIS off he moves at the absolute limit of how fast something can move... Even if hulk moved at light speed/time travel speed/ dimensional break speed, he'd still be a snail if Flash decided to speed force break
Hes going to have to wade through WBH's energy and thats going to slow him down.
Originally posted by Deadline
You read WWH? Tha **** you think?
You mean when he had to resort to BFR to beat the Juggernaut, or when he beat the Fanastic Four? Or when he beat a skrull imposter Black Bolt? Or shook the Eastern Seaboard of one continent at his maddest?
How does that compare to lifting 1/2 of infinite weight, punches that shatter time and space or Superman's Maggedon feat?
Originally posted by Sirius77Not a damn thing but people don't want to accept that. Also what is aura going to do to someone traveling at that speed. His inertia alone overcomes any aura the hulk might put out and to resist those speeds and the impact of delivering an infinite mass punch when Wally is moving at those speeds the speedforce protection should be at least on par with a mid herald shield if not far greater.
So what stops Wally from stealing their speed and amping?
Originally posted by The PictNothing to a Pre-Crisis kryptonian and Post Crisis Flash has only gotten stronger and he was already able to hang with superman.
👆I get quite frustrated with WBH in debates. The Hulk fans go nuts for him, "the most strongest Hulk ever!!" But he didn't really do.....anything.
Originally posted by Uriel005
Not a damn thing but people don't want to accept that. Also what is aura going to do to someone traveling at that speed. His inertia alone overcomes any aura the hulk might put out and to resist those speeds and the impact of delivering an infinite mass punch when Wally is moving at those speeds the speedforce protection should be at least on par with a mid herald shield if not far greater.
Agreed, people tend to forget that the flashes actually do have ridiculous durability. Professor zoom was hit with the force of a white dwarf star in a picosecond and was KOed, but virtually unharmed considering the circumstances.
Originally posted by keiththegreat
You mean when he had to resort to BFR to beat the Juggernaut, or when he beat the Fanastic Four?
He resorted to BFR because he didn't want to waste time and while he was holding back he managed to stop Juggs forward motion.
Originally posted by keiththegreat
Or when he beat a skrull imposter Black Bolt? Or shook the Eastern Seaboard of one continent at his maddest?
That skrull imposter was pretty powerful, he shook the eastern seaboard with his footsteps.
Originally posted by keiththegreat
How does that compare to lifting 1/2 of infinite weight, punches that shatter time and space or Superman's Maggedon feat?
I'm not getting into an abstract debate about what half on infinity is, that should be PIS. I'm pretty sure Hulk has got comparable feats and Supes had help from Batman in doing that (maggedon)
Originally posted by The Pict
srug WBH doesn't really have any feats that put him above Superman in terms of strength
See what I said above. Also its a bit of common sense. It was stated on numerous ocassions WWH was the most powerful incarnation of Hulk and his baseline strength was clas 100 and thats even before he went WB.
Just because he doesn't have loads of feats doesn't mean we can't assume hes more powerful, just take any of the weaker Hulks feats and realise that WBH >>> Hulk.
If you want to talk about feats he managed to stop Juggs forward motion and he wasn't that pissed. I don't even think Thor has done that. Also WBH was going to destroy the eastern seaboard with his footsteps.
Savage Hulk has feats that are on par with Superman, WBH is alot more powerful of course hes stronger than Superman.