Originally posted by Existerethey would be attacking the marvel squad, putting extreme pressure on their shields and ffs.
You tell me, Brucey. What would they be doing?
Magneto can take down WW imo in a 1-on-1 scenario, but even then it wouldn't be an easy fight and would severely drain him. Now, add Marvel and Adam assulting his FFs, and he has no chance of taking diana down.
I think the marvel squad stands no chance. They're outpowered AND outnumbered.
Originally posted by Starscream MOk, let's flesh out the scenario a little:
they would be attacking the marvel squad, putting extreme pressure on their shields and ffs.Magneto can take down WW imo in a 1-on-1 scenario, but even then it wouldn't be an easy fight and would severely drain him. Now, add Marvel and Adam assulting his FFs, and he has no chance of taking diana down.
I think the marvel squad stands no chance. They're outpowered AND outnumbered.
I think, if need be, Cassandra Nova can occupy the Kryptonians by herself for at least a period of time. I think she could certainly mind control Supergirl to even the odds, but we can discuss that afterwards.
I think Doom stands a chance of taking any one person out of the battle for at least a period of time with the Crimson Bands, which magic resistance wouldn't really help dealing with.
I think Magneto has proven that he and his shields can hold their own for extended periods of time against many heralds- ultimately if his teammates are able to take two opponents out of the battle for any amount of time, and turn their attention to the remaining combatants, then this becomes their fight to win.
I think Magneto, Cassie and Doom are three top multi-taskers with top shields, and would each be individually capable of attacking multiple of the opponents at once.
Anyways, I'm just playing the devil's advocate for now, since the majority vote seems to side with DC.
Originally posted by Solidus BlackThey have no greater striking power than that which has failed to break Magneto's shield in the past.
Supes, Black Adam and CM for sure can split planetary masses with single hits. Magnetos shield is not going to hold up.The feedback when the shield pops wont be too good for him either.
Additionally, it's not just his shield to hold up.
hmm, not sure smurph. i think supergirl is the weak-link and could likely be controlled or put out temporarily by cass--maybe have kara attack clark or one of the others? can see that disrupting them, but diana coudl free her if she only had a chance. mags could occupy diana as well, i agree. i think a lot depends on whether mags can control the bracers, and whether he could maintain that control while the shields are being pummeled. doom MIGHT be able to use the bands, but i don't see them being as effective--he's not as strong as strange and holding cm OR adam would require a powerful casting. not sure what else doom would contribute being behind 2 shields.
if you bring some speed into it, they could all--combined--really work those shields over at various points in time and from a lot of different angles. i think the 3 could hold out for a long time, and do some damage--maybe even ko one or 2, but i don't think they could manage to take all 5 before they went down. interesting scenario though.
Originally posted by leonidasI think I'm currently of a similar opinion. I view Kara as the weak link, with Cassandra probably being able to control Supergirl and definitely being able to mentally occupy the kryptonians until they find a way to deal with her (Cassie, that is). I think she's capable of not necessarily taking out but certainly stopping multiples of the opponents in their tracks as they battle her for mental control, provided that she's well protected.
hmm, not sure smurph. i think supergirl is the weak-link and could likely be controlled or put out temporarily by cass--maybe have kara attack clark or one of the others? can see that disrupting them, but diana coudl free her if she only had a chance. mags could occupy diana as well, i agree. i think a lot depends on whether mags can control the bracers, and whether he could maintain that control while the shields are being pummeled. doom MIGHT be able to use the bands, but i don't see them being as effective--he's not as strong as strange and holding cm OR adam would require a powerful casting. not sure what else doom would contribute being behind 2 shields.if you bring some speed into it, they could all--combined--really work those shields over at various points in time and from a lot of different angles. i think the 3 could hold out for a long time, and do some damage--maybe even ko one or 2, but i don't think they could manage to take all 5 before they went down. interesting scenario though.
Diana probably has the best mental defenses in the match and is also the most susceptible to manipulation via Magneto, who in turn should be capable of utilizing the environment to wreak havok but, again, not necessarily put anybody down. If Cassandra can slow people down, he may have a shot with outright blasting but...
Doom would be the most useful with magic from behind the shields, as well as whatever resources are available at Castle Doom.
I currently think Marvel goes down in the end but I wanted to gauge opinion.
Originally posted by Existere
I think I'm currently of a similar opinion. I view Kara as the weak link, with Cassandra probably being able to control Supergirl and definitely being able to mentally occupy the kryptonians until they find a way to deal with her (Cassie, that is). I think she's capable of not necessarily taking out but certainly stopping multiples of the opponents in their tracks as they battle her for mental control, provided that she's well protected.Diana probably has the best mental defenses in the match and is also the most susceptible to manipulation via Magneto, who in turn should be capable of utilizing the environment to wreak havok but, again, not necessarily put anybody down. If Cassandra can slow people down, he may have a shot with outright blasting but...
Doom would be the most useful with magic from behind the shields, as well as whatever resources are available at Castle Doom.
I currently think Marvel goes down in the end but I wanted to gauge opinion.
yeah, i think in the end it's the damage soak that would be too much. they have lots of fire power, and could dish out some hurt, but......... these are some of the big'uns they're facing. i think it would last for quite a while though.
Originally posted by Existerehum... nova also has intangibility going on for her, so she would be a long-lasting nuisance, but more importantly, considering her TP she can probably drop SG and or CM with mindrape
I think I'm currently of a similar opinion. I view Kara as the weak link, with Cassandra probably being able to control Supergirl and definitely being able to mentally occupy the kryptonians until they find a way to deal with her (Cassie, that is). I think she's capable of not necessarily taking out but certainly stopping multiples of the opponents in their tracks as they battle her for mental control, provided that she's well protected.Diana probably has the best mental defenses in the match and is also the most susceptible to manipulation via Magneto, who in turn should be capable of utilizing the environment to wreak havok but, again, not necessarily put anybody down. If Cassandra can slow people down, he may have a shot with outright blasting but...
Doom would be the most useful with magic from behind the shields, as well as whatever resources are available at Castle Doom.
I currently think Marvel goes down in the end but I wanted to gauge opinion.