anyways,i think yoda was being a hater or a retard because starkiller almost did what yoda could not ...defeat the sith. I don't see luke pulling star destroyers out of the sky clone or not, darkside or not. I don't see why it matters what SIDE of the force you are on, hell if you could do better against the empire than the chosen-not-chosen-yet-chosen-one then hell yea let my old ass show you every thing I know! you did what over...help me out with an estimate of how many jedi vader in general killed/I cant even count them all! From the archives keeper to his own daughter!!!!