Originally posted by SasuOna
Sebastian Shaw overpowered Wolvie and put him in a hold. The only reason the Hulk doesn't do this is because of plot.Logically Wolverine isn't going to escape something like that applied by someone who is several times stronger then him.
I'd actually like to see this done in comics more often. I mean, hell, so long as he's held in a way that he can't easily pop his claws in, what the hell could he do if he's restrained by a Class 100 or even someone significantly weaker than that but still far stronger than Logan himself?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'd actually like to see this done in comics more often. I mean, hell, so long as he's held in a way that he can't easily pop his claws in, what the hell could he do if he's restrained by a Class 100 or even someone significantly weaker than that but still far stronger than Logan himself?
The same could be said for tons of other characters not just wolverine being held.. The only characters I could see doign that kind of stuff are characters who grapple most of the time, and even then I think they would get tired of just holding him there.
Originally posted by jalek moye
The same could be said for tons of other characters not just wolverine being held.. The only characters I could see doign that kind of stuff are characters who grapple most of the time, and even then I think they would get tired of just holding him there.
Even characters with massively high amounts of stamina to draw upon?
Originally posted by SasuOna
Sebastian Shaw overpowered Wolvie and put him in a hold. The only reason the Hulk doesn't do this is because of plot.Logically Wolverine isn't going to escape something like that applied by someone who is several times stronger then him.
a hold that also prevents wolverine from stabbing the person who is also now immobalized right beside him?
Sebastian Shaw also absorbs kinetic energy, right?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Without PIS, a cl 1 TK user would be all that it would take to own Wolverine.
wolverine actually has some degree of TK resistance
Originally posted by SasuOna
Sebastian Shaw overpowered Wolvie and put him in a hold. The only reason the Hulk doesn't do this is because of plot.Logically Wolverine isn't going to escape something like that applied by someone who is several times stronger then him.
Shaw did that to Daniel Wayverine, not Wolverine, and Wayverine still beat him off panel after he cut the lights.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'd actually like to see this done in comics more often. I mean, hell, so long as he's held in a way that he can't easily pop his claws in, what the hell could he do if he's restrained by a Class 100 or even someone significantly weaker than that but still far stronger than Logan himself?
Try to wrestle with someone holding two knives, and let use know how that turns out for you.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Try to wrestle with someone holding two knives, and let use know how that turns out for you.
Lol?
If I'm a class 100+ being and I hold them in a way that restricts their arm movement with my vastly superior physical strength, I'm not going to worry about their knives. Unless you think Logan could break such a hold?
As far as the "hold Wolverine down" argument is concerned, I'd like to remind everyone that Wolverine is incredibly skilled and is faster than your average brick. Pinning him down without getting diced isn't an easy task.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Besides PIS, how exactly does one have resistance to being picked up or held by TK?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Besides PIS, how exactly does one have resistance to being picked up or held by TK?
on panel feats where characters with TK are unable to affect him?
like what, you want me to describe the physical mechanisms of a force that only exists in fictional universes? LOL
you should write marvel and tell them they got the physics of psychic powers wrong 😉
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lol?If I'm a class 100+ being and I hold them in a way that restricts their arm movement with my vastly superior physical strength, I'm not going to worry about their knives. Unless you think Logan could break such a hold?
you are going to immobalize both the wrists and the body simultaniously while constantly maintaining enough distance to avoid slashes? against an opponent whose bones wont break, wont tap out, and probably outlasts you?
I'm skeptical...
Originally posted by inimalist
you are going to immobalize both the wrists and the body simultaniously while constantly maintaining enough distance to avoid slashes? against an opponent whose bones wont break, wont tap out, and probably outlasts you?I'm skeptical...
If I'm someone with durability enough to endure said slashes with minimal damage if any, and/or any reasonable amount of superspeed/skill, yeah, I don't see why this would be such an impossible feat. You're more than welcome to explain why this would be difficult to achieve in the sense of merely immobilizing Logan to the point where he really can't form any kind of offense, period, though.
Originally posted by inimalist
on panel feats where characters with TK are unable to affect him?like what, you want me to describe the physical mechanisms of a force that only exists in fictional universes? LOL
you should write marvel and tell them they got the physics of psychic powers wrong 😉
Without a valid reason for his "resistance to TK", it would fall under PIS.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lol?If I'm a class 100+ being and I hold them in a way that restricts their arm movement with my vastly superior physical strength, I'm not going to worry about their knives. Unless you think Logan could break such a hold?
You'd have to get him in such a hold before he stabbed several times... not likely to happen.