Originally posted by Uriel005
Superman can inhale more than half a ton of air and compress it... He flew through space by taking a deep breath and holding it...
And Hyperion sniffed Holocaust up his nose like he was snorting cocain and it did nothing to him. Hell, Holocaust energy in his suit has been compared to numerous of nuclear explosions going off in a chain reaction state. Even with that showing from Hype along with the showing of his body compressing solar energy (just like Supes), he still got dropped by a ton of sand.
Originally posted by MrMind
no he can't. that's my whole point, the point is hyperion got owned by bunch of b-listers. I mean even mimic, morph and sasquach give him trouble when he had the help of ms marvel. simple fact is superman won't get taken down by blink and gambit.I'm not using low showings here for hyperion. because all of his showing wasn't that good. hyperion taking down bunch of earth heroes individually isn't that impressive . they are bunch of canon fodders avengers and x-men. even defeat high leveler individually like magneto, hulk or thor isn't that impressive either. they are featless. from him coming to 616 then got his ass owned by blue marvel and thunderbolts. I seriously doubt hyperion can beat mainstream thor.
if superman turn villain he can do everything hyperion has done on panel PLUS destroy that meteor (something hyperion couldn't)
You might need to reread the story buddy. Hyperion admitted that he toyed with them. Hell, during their first scuffle, the Exiles couldn't even tickle him, they were all defeated until Blink made Hyperion damage himself and Gambit commited suicide by charging up the Mkraan crystal, stabbing him with it.
Did you read the story?
All of Hyperion showings was good... the only way he was defeat was through prep. The Exiles admitted that Hype was the most powerful, unstoppable being they ever faced and they also admitted that they didn't stand a chance in a face 2 face encounter.
Are you seriously using a diferent version of Hyperion here buddy? The thunderbolts used prep to take him out just like batman use prep to take Superman out or luther use prep to take him out. Hyperion wasn't defeated physically by them. DAMN.
Blue Marvel got one shotted by Hyperion and could have died if Hype continued with his attack.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Originally posted by carver9
You might need to reread the story buddy. Hyperion admitted that he toyed with them. Hell, during their first scuffle, the Exiles couldn't even tickle him, they were all defeated until Blink made Hyperion damage himself and Gambit commited suicide by charging up the Mkraan crystal, stabbing him with it.Did you read the story?
All of Hyperion showings was good... the only way he was defeat was through prep. The Exiles admitted that Hype was the most powerful, unstoppable being they ever faced and they also admitted that they didn't stand a chance in a face 2 face encounter.
Are you seriously using a diferent version of Hyperion here buddy? The thunderbolts used prep to take him out just like batman use prep to take Superman out or luther use prep to take him out. Hyperion wasn't defeated physically by them. DAMN.
Blue Marvel got one shotted by Hyperion and could have died if Hype continued with his attack.
You don't know what you are talking about.
sign.........It's not different version of hyperion, it's mark milton, same guy.
thunderbolts didn't use prep to take him out, they use nanites. but still doesn't justify him having major trouble with a depowered juggernaut.
No, the only reason blue marvel got down at first was because he didn't cut loose. after he cut loose KH got owned badly, this just shown that blue marvel is superior to KH
Originally posted by carver9
And Hyperion sniffed Holocaust up his nose like he was snorting cocain and it did nothing to him. Hell, Holocaust energy in his suit has been compared to numerous of nuclear explosions going off in a chain reaction state. Even with that showing from Hype along with the showing of his body compressing solar energy (just like Supes), he still got dropped by a ton of sand.
Hyperion isn't Superman.
You can't argue a point without some sort of backing. You're just speculating otherwise.
Originally posted by MrMind
I know KH is more powerful than exiles, through out whole thread I never said exiles are more powerful than him. of course he's more powerful than exiles memebers, exiles are formed by bunch of b-lists, if KH is not more powerful than them, he won't even be a challenge to superman. the point is he was unable to finish them fast enough, that's why he lost twice. hence the whole point, if superman's the villain, he can do everything KH has done plus stop the meteor that KH couldn't.sign.........It's not different version of hyperion, it's mark milton, same guy.
thunderbolts didn't use prep to take him out, they use nanites. but still doesn't justify him having major trouble with a depowered juggernaut.
No, the only reason blue marvel got down at first was because he didn't cut loose. after he cut loose KH got owned badly, this just shown that blue marvel is superior to KH
Somebody help him. Somebody please assist him with debating this topic. Are you truly saying that King Hype can't beat Superman because he didn't kill the Exiles right away? Is this what you are saying? How about this... The Exiles fought Proteus, Dark Phoenix, Galactus (that was stated on panel as being as powerful as 616 Galactus), Mastero Hulk, Exile Surfer, etc, etc... the Exiles fought all of these peeps and survived. They were not killed right off the bat. So with that said, everyone that I named are weaklings ...LOLOLOLHAHAHAHAH.
I agree, Superman probably could kill the Exiles. Mimic and Blink would be a major nuicance but he could do it just like Hyperon could do it along with Phoenix, Surfer, Galactus, Hulk, etc... but its part of the story that it didn't happened. I do know one thing though. Hyperion killed more Exiles members than anyone they faced.
OMG... so since Superman, Supergirl, and Superboy were unable to stop brainiacs ship, I guess that means Hulk stomps. Not a good way to debate buddy. It was a planet destroying meteor about the size of the moon coming at earth at light speed... its not a low end feat and Supes has been put in a similar situation before and needed the aid of some more kryptonians.
The thunderbolts had prep.
Blue Marvel got one shotted.
Originally posted by carver9
Somebody help him. Somebody please assist him with debating this topic. Are you truly saying that King Hype can't beat Superman because he didn't kill the Exiles right away? Is this what you are saying? How about this... The Exiles fought Proteus, Dark Phoenix, Galactus (that was stated on panel as being as powerful as 616 Galactus), Mastero Hulk, Exile Surfer, etc, etc... the Exiles fought all of these peeps and survived. They were not killed right off the bat. So with that said, everyone that I named are weaklings ...LOLOLOLHAHAHAHAH.
OMG... so since Superman, Supergirl, and Superboy were unable to stop brainiacs ship, I guess that means Hulk stomps. Not a good way to debate buddy.
It was a planet destroying meteor about the size of the moon coming at earth at light speed... its not a low end feat and Supes has been put in a similar situation before and needed the aid of some more kryptonians.
The thunderbolts had prep. Blue Marvel got one shotted.
Originally posted by MrMind
read thunderbolts 153 agian, Thunderbolts did defeat him because of nanites. not denying that. but even depowered juggernaut could took him straight on for a while
blue marvel outright beaten him straight up in age of heroes 3, no matter how you want to ignore it. evidence's right there
The same Juggernaut that you are trying to use as a low showing took on Thor along with some other members of the Avengers and held his own.
The thunderbolts defeated him with prep. Blue Marvel got one shotted and could have died if Hyperion pressed his attack.
Originally posted by MrMind
no I'm saying KH has bad track records, exiles are bunch of b-listers, nothing more.WTF are you talking about, this has nothing to do with what I said.
moon size meteor? how about the fact that superman destroyed moon, twice.
fact is if it's superman, he can stop that meteor
I am trying SOOOOO hard not to bring up something to prove to you that you don't know what in the hell you are talking about. Like I said before, Superman was put in a similar situation and he failed at stopping this large object. Numerous of Kryptonians aided him with this and they still failed. Its different stopping a big a** rock coming at you at high speed vs rambing one destroying it.
You using KH not killing the Exiles as some type of bad feat is boo boo. I already named the people that failed at stopping the Exiles and Proteus also failed at stopping them but Proteus KMC style would annihilate the entire team of JLA if it came down to it.
Somebody help this guy debate... PLEASE. He needs assistance.
Originally posted by carver9
I am trying SOOOOO hard not to bring up something to prove to you that you don't know what in the hell you are talking about. Like I said before, Superman was put in a similar situation and he failed at stopping this large object. Numerous of Kryptonians aided him with this and they still failed. Its different stopping a big a** rock coming at you at high speed vs rambing one destroying it.
You using KH not killing the Exiles as some type of bad feat is boo boo. I already named the people that failed at stopping the Exiles and Proteus also failed at stopping them but Proteus KMC style would annihilate the entire team of JLA if it came down to it.
Somebody help this guy debate... PLEASE. He needs assistance.
Originally posted by MrMind
which instance are you talking about with the kryptonians? issue numbers?
no, a rock coming at high speed is easier to destroy because of bigger impact/counterforce.KH lost, get over it.unlike hyperion, superman would simply speedblitze blink before she can do anything.
and there, back to ignore again
I'm referring to the instance where the moon was coming at Supes at high speeds and they could stop it.
Hyperion could have speed blitzed Blink... he chose not to. Are you saying that Hyperion doesn't have super speed. Exiles Surfer could have speed blitzed her as well. Are you saying that he doesn't have super speed.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Fun fact. KH never beat anyone on panel who was = to Superman.Also correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't his uber HF tied to the battlefield somehow?
Because since coming to 616 he hasn't displayed it again.
Fun fact... he was walking through 2 Hyperions and by the end of the fight, both of them looked pretty much defeated. I can't see Supes doing this to 2 mid/high heralds with a smile on his face like Hype had.
Originally posted by carver9
I still dnt understand why you think teleporting a ton of sand into Supes won't do anyhting to him. That's ridiculous.
you haven't proven why it would work, even though it's been stated that Superman's insides can actually take a severe amount of damage and he'll survive.
repeating yourself doesn't make your argument more right.
Originally posted by carver9
I am trying SOOOOO hard not to bring up something to prove to you that you don't know what in the hell you are talking about. Like I said before, Superman was put in a similar situation and he failed at stopping this large object. Numerous of Kryptonians aided him with this and they still failed. Its different stopping a big a** rock coming at you at high speed vs rambing one destroying it.You using KH not killing the Exiles as some type of bad feat is boo boo. I already named the people that failed at stopping the Exiles and Proteus also failed at stopping them but Proteus KMC style would annihilate the entire team of JLA if it came down to it.
Somebody help this guy debate... PLEASE. He needs assistance.
carver, stop accusing people of doing the exact thing you're doing.
Originally posted by -Pr-
you haven't proven why it would work, even though it's been stated that Superman's insides can actually take a severe amount of damage and he'll survive.repeating yourself doesn't make your argument more right.
carver, stop accusing people of doing the exact thing you're doing.
Pr... what am I accusing Mr. Mind of that I am doing. I'm pointing out the holes in his post and there is a lot of them.
I agree, Superman insides can take a lot of damage but that kind of different than having a ton of sand teleported into you.