Speedsters vs Gods vs Heralds

Originally posted by carver9
This is your opinion about Glads and Sentry being the wink link on their team. Some people thinks Sentry is more powerful than Supes and Surfer and some people thinks Glads>Supes. Its all opinion.

As for the rest of your post. Surfer would be hard pressed at having enough time to amp Supes. Thor or Bill would be all over him knowing how powerful Surfer is.

Then you add Cap Marvel who Supes even stated that he couldn't beat in a fight, Bill holding off Glads, and Black Adam temporarily stalemating Sentry... the tides would turn immediately. It could easily become a 4 on 2 battle. The speedsters are grounded and I think everyone on the opposing team can take to the air before any of the speedsters got to them.

Team god is just overall too powerful and versatile to lose.

If either Glads or Sentry are more powerful than Supes, that should put team Herald in the win column according to that line of thinking.

This is a triple threat match, if Supes' quicker reactions and better versatility than CA/BA isn't put to use, the Speedsters take it.

The only guys with the sheer speed + countermeasures in this bout that can match the speedsters are on team Herald.

What AOE powers do Thor and BRB have that would work on an indestructible planet against Speedsters? More importantly if they take to the air (somehow) before being bltized by the Speedsters they still have to contend with the overall quicker Herald team.

CA and BA have Superman level speed (about) but wouldn't be much use against the Speedsters imo.

SS doesn't need much time to amp Supes if he can, he's shown the ability to project tons of energy in a short time.

Originally posted by Allankles
If either Glads or Sentry are more powerful than Supes, that should put team Herald in the win column according to that line of thinking.

This is a triple threat match, if Supes' quicker reactions and better versatility than CA/BA isn't put to use, the Speedsters take it.

The only guys with the sheer speed + countermeasures in this bout that can match the speedsters are on team Herald.

What AOE powers do Thor and BRB have that would work on an indestructible planet against Speedsters? More importantly if they take to the air (somehow) before being bltized by the Speedsters they still have to contend with the overall quicker Herald team.

CA and BA have Superman level speed (about) but wouldn't be much use against the Speedsters imo.

SS doesn't need much time to amp Supes if he can, he's shown the ability to project tons of energy in a short time.

This fight isn't going to be decided on speed and even if it was, everyone on god team can contend with it. Bill and Surfer have one of the fastest paced battles that has been shown in a long time. Skuttlebucket was going Hyperspeed and Bill and Surfer kept up with it while fighting at super speed. If that doesn't prove that Bill could keep up with the peeps on the other team then someone is underating him.

Cap and BA are just as fast as the people on team herald and Thor can keep up as well. This isn't a speed battle... especially with cis on.

This fight will come down to power and team god has that 10 folds. Thor alone is just as versatile as Surfer and again, him knowing how powerful Surfer is, he will go for him right off the bat. Surfer will not have the time to amp anyone.

It really doesn't matter if Sentry or Gladiator is powerful than Supes or not... the energy that would be coming from team god will eventually drop all of them.

Team speed is nothing but a nuicance. Bill and Thor alone can cover the entire battle field with Tornadoes and lightning, hail, snow, etc, etc, from all angles. They would be hard pressed at running once Thor and Bill is done and Cap and Adam can add to this.

Originally posted by carver9
This fight isn't going to be decided on speed and even if it was, everyone on god team can contend with it. Bill and Surfer have one of the fastest paced battles that has been shown in a long time. Skuttlebucket was going Hyperspeed and Bill and Surfer kept up with it while fighting at super speed. If that doesn't prove that Bill could keep up with the peeps on the other team then someone is underating him.

Cap and BA are just as fast as the people on team herald and Thor can keep up as well. This isn't a speed battle... especially with cis on.

This fight will come down to power and team god has that 10 folds. Thor alone is just as versatile as Surfer and again, him knowing how powerful Surfer is, he will go for him right off the bat. Surfer will not have the time to amp anyone.

It really doesn't matter if Sentry or Gladiator is powerful than Supes or not... the energy that would be coming from team god will eventually drop all of them.

Team speed is nothing but a nuicance. Bill and Thor alone can cover the entire battle field with Tornadoes and lightning, hail, snow, etc, etc, from all angles. They would be hard pressed at running once Thor and Bill is done and Cap and Adam can add to this.

Speed decides everything if it is sufficient enough. If one character can move 5ft before another can move 1in. then the slower character has no defense and becomes a sitting duck to the faster.
You must understand that there is a difference between top speed and acceleration. Neither Bill nor Thor can accelerate to the great speeds that the speedsters or heralds can within battle distance. But that doesn't mean they can't travel at great speeds (assuming they have room and time to accelerate to those speeds).

Your bias is making you think that the slower characters can perform actions before the faster characters. This is nonsense, otherwise the slower characters are faster and the faster are slower.

Thor and Bill can't do anything but get stomped here. Bill's feat against Surfer was due to relative velocity. For example, we are moving at great speeds with the Earth around the milky way. Yet we can catch a 50mph baseball with ease, although the ball is also moving at great speeds around the milky way. Surfer's blast wasn't moving FTL relative to Bill but only FTL relative to an stationary observer. It was moving at the normal speeds as if they both were stationary.