Me too.
I think the controller is dumb. I think it's just a gimmick. I don't know why people are going crazy for it.
It's a IPAD for a controller. The graphics will probably be good but I think the idea that the controller will give a me a entirely new experience is full of crap. I've been hearing that from every company for the past 5 years and I still feel like I'm playing games when I use them.
An Interesting point
Could PS3 + PS Vita = Wii U?
How Nintendo's new way to play could be brought to you by Sony.
Upon first glance Nintendo seems to have once again revealed an entirely new and unique way to experience videogames. The Wii U controller, with its iPad-with-buttons design and its ability to work as a companion screen to your HDTV is undoubtedly cool, at least based off the conceptual demos and trailers Nintendo teased in its press conference and on the E3 show floor.But is this 'new way to play' a gaming setup that is exclusive to Nintendo? Perhaps not. It's possible if not entirely likely that Sony will be able to deliver similar experiences this Christmas and beyond with the PlayStation Vita and PS3 working in tandem, and before the Wii U even has a chance to release.
The price of a PS3 and PS Vita combined would presumably be more expensive than a Wii U and its controller, but if you are already one of the 50 million PS3 owners worldwide then $249 USD for the Wi-Fi PS Vita could be more appealing than shelling out for the Wii U – with the added bonus of gaining a genuine portable entertainment device that you can throw in your bag and play with away from home.
Sony certainly has experience with a setup similar to Nintendo's WiiU with its Remote Play service for PS3, which allows PSP owners to browse and stream content from their PlayStation 3 console. And though largely unheralded, Lair – one of the very earliest titles for the PS3 – allowed the player to stream the game to their PSP screen with no lag. The downside was the sacrifice of control – the PSP only has one thumbstick when the game needed two to perform adequately. But such issues won't arise with the PS Vita, given it practically has every control interface type known to man – from twin sticks to touch screens.
Of course, there are plenty of other factors to consider. No specifications for the Wii U console itself have been revealed, and the final console could well be uber powerful, play Blu-rays, vacuum your carpet – who knows? But the point is: do you want to make space for a new (admittedly tiny) box under your TV, or do you want to make room in your bag for a new handheld?
Originally posted by S_D_J
To Nintendo it isbut I'm comparing it to the current consoles available: PS3 and 360. while it's said it has more power than the other consoles, nothing shown so far proves it.
we still have to see whether the 3rd party games are nothing than 360 ports or implement the controller in a proper way (Imagine controlling the batarang with this thing... a small gimmick but still could be fun)
and you use every wii peripheral so it does feel like WiiHD
about the price: most touch-based phones are priced around that number, mostly above it... this is like a tablet, and I doubt you could find one below 400$... while it's not a portable computer, it still a kind-a like a portable gaming system:
-streaming video
-6" touch panel display
-camera
-gyroscopethose definitely cost a pretty penny
I want to be proven wrong, though
This is not like a tablet of the iPad or Xoom caliber. It won't need nearly as strong computing power, and it likely doesn't have a capacitive touch screen. And I don't think Nintendo will put a huge markup on it as they want to drive adoption. The iPad 1 is said to have cost about 200$ in production cost a year ago and that was a far more capable device.
we'll see next year, it's just an estimate I said based on current devices, nothing more
anyways
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-wii-u-does-1080p-via-hdmi-supports-external-hdds-203173.phtml
Nintendo has made available some more specific information on the Wii U hardware, along with a few images of the console and tablet that demonstrate the ways in which you can use the devices. (You can view them in the gallery below.) With this new console, Nintendo is finally making the jump to the HD generation.The console's AV Multi-Out port can output a 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, or 1080p feed via composite video, S-video, component video, or HDMI, along with six-channel linear PCM audio over HDMI. Its slot-loading disc drive will play Wii U games, which will come on "12-centimeter proprietary high-density optical discs" (i.e., not Blu-ray or DVD, but perhaps a format similar to them), as well as Wii games. No compatibility with GameCube games has been mentioned, but we don't yet have definitive yes or no confirmation. The unit is about 10.5 inches (268.5 mm) long, 6.8 inches (172 mm) wide, and 1.8 inches (46 mm) deep.
The tablet controller -- which Nintendo is simply calling the "New Controller" at this time -- includes an AC adapter port for its rechargeable battery, as well as a "sensor strip" (presumably, this is the dark gray strip at the top in which the front-facing camera is embedded). For more information on the tablet's feature set, check out the update to our original Wii U post, as well as Nick's hands-on with the device.
The Wii U will contain internal flash memory -- no word on how much -- and its storage will be expandable with an SD card or an external hard drive (the console features four USB 2.0 ports). Its CPU is an IBM Power-based multi-core processor, but Nintendo has not yet released further details. We'll let you know as soon as we know more.
with no HDD they're saving themselves a few bucks
I still think no HDD is a bad idea
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
It's good to know there's gonna be a new Super Smash Bros.Too bad they haven't even began development yet so we might gotta wait a whole year for a trailer.
I just read this
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-nintendo-s-new-console-is-the-wii-u-updated--203141.phtml
...The Wii U can output up to 1080p video via HDMI, and it can handle one tablet controller plus as many as four Wii Remotes or Wii Remote Plus wands. (In fact, the Wii U is backward compatible with all Wii games and accessories...
only one tablet?... that would make the controller part of the console and easily priced as one unit
Originally posted by S_D_J
I just read thishttp://www.destructoid.com/e3-nintendo-s-new-console-is-the-wii-u-updated--203141.phtml
only one tablet?... that would make the controller part of the console and easily priced as one unit
That's very interesting. Makes some sense, I think. I wonder if they are going to bring out other standard controllers or if the Wii ones are going to be standard for the Wii U
No worse a name than numbering them, really. The only reason they couldn't just put an I at the end is pretty obvious, and iWii isn't much better. I tend to approach things with neutrality, so while I will say that they spent too much time beating around the bush showing off the controller, I won't assume the gimmick behind it becomes as centric to the console as the Wii-mote was in regards to the actual core games, first or third party. I really liked the idea of having this much of a boon in initial 3rd party support. The tech demo was nice too.
Now I'm off to go CYCLING! AWETHOME! awesome
Launch Titles I believe. Never expected to see Tekken on a Nintendo console. Then again, with Tekken 6...
Originally posted by Bardock42
That's very interesting. Makes some sense, I think. I wonder if they are going to bring out other standard controllers or if the Wii ones are going to be standard for the Wii U
It seems the wiimote would be the standard, just as any other peripheral would work.
If indeed only one tablet is to be used, then the console would be like a portable, having the processing and media unit separated
wonder how will this work with GC... though it seems that won't be included here
I'm kind of disappointed that the tablet/controller isn't fully portable -understandable as it would eat into ds/3ds turf-. I've sat out this round of the console wars largely because my job requires extensive travel and also the fact that my 5,6 and 7 year olds have all but taken over my living room!
I've been waiting for the console makers to embrace a tablet style gaming system so that I can get back into the gaming scene and while this isn't quite that, it's a definite step in the right direction. I can play on my hdtv, and then when the kids take over I can continue to play via the tablet controller. Now if only they'd give me cloud based streaming...
The Wii U third party demo reel was all PS3/360/PC clips, and the system is "a year away."
http://ca.kotaku.com/5809744/nintendo-used-360-ps3--pc-game-footage-in-its-wii-u-demo-reel
Originally posted by S_D_J
with no HDD they're saving themselves a few bucksI still think no HDD is a bad idea
I hope HDD are dead and gone by the next round of consoles, flash storage is increasing in size and SSD are becoming more common. HDD just adds unnecessary power, noise and heat. srug
One tablet per console is kind of a downer though...
Originally posted by srankmissingninYeah I had heard about that. At least I guess that it proves the u is at least comparable to the current systems. Imo the next gen won't see the huge leap graphically that we saw with the current systems, but rather it'll be all about features, i.e. online features, cloud compatibility, efficiency (flash based storage) speed etc.
The Wii U third party demo reel was all PS3/360/PC clips, and the system is "a year away."http://ca.kotaku.com/5809744/nintendo-used-360-ps3--pc-game-footage-in-its-wii-u-demo-reel
Give me a damned tablet style gaming system that I can plug into my hdtv to use as a console or take with me when I have to bounce. Give me ssd or flash based internal memory (at least 32 gigs), let me buy/store content on the cloud and boom, I'm a loyal customer. If not, I'll be more then happy to skip the next gen of consoles as well and just roll with a tegra 3 or snapdragon based tablet and see what game developers decide to do with that. Either way, my days of being tethered to a home console are long gone. I just don't have the time anymore. Nintendo has taken a big step in the right direction imo.
Originally posted by dmills
Yeah I had heard about that. At least I guess that it proves the u is at least comparable to the current systems. Imo the next gen won't see the huge leap graphically that we saw with the current systems, but rather it'll be all about features, i.e. online features, cloud compatibility, efficiency (flash based storage) speed etc.Give me a damned tablet style gaming system that I can plug into my hdtv to use as a console or take with me when I have to bounce. Give me ssd or flash based internal memory (at least 32 gigs), let me buy/store content on the cloud and boom, I'm a loyal customer. If not, I'll be more then happy to skip the next gen of consoles as well and just roll with a tegra 3 or snapdragon based tablet and see what game developers decide to do with that. Either way, my days of being tethered to a home console are long gone. I just don't have the time anymore. Nintendo has taken a big step in the right direction imo.
I don't know, Reggie said something like "If we meet our goals the Wii U will be graphically comparable to the 360 and PS3. The Wii U isn't a next gen console, it's Nintendo finally entering the current gen after six years.
Originally posted by dmills
Time will tell if the Wii u is a game changer. If it's a supped up Wii with a tablet then I imagine Sony and Microsoft will continue with their respective timelines for next gen system releases, possibly seeing if they can incorporate a peripheral solution into their current systems. However if the Wii u up's the ante graphically, then I could see them moving up the time table a bit.
Time will tell if the Wii u is a game changer. If it's a souped up Wii with a tablet then I imagine Sony and Microsoft will continue with their respective timelines for next gen system releases, possibly seeing if they can incorporate a peripheral solution into their current systems. However if the Wii u up's the ante graphically, then I could see them moving up the time table a bit.