Are Christians too proud?

Started by The MISTER5 pages
Originally posted by Mindship
Again, I'm largely speculating here, but I suspect there is a strong genetic predisposition for us-them thinking, a mindset which may have been advantageous long before religious preoccupation arose, back when primitive humans were more centered on protecting, say, feeding grounds against strangers.

Ahh yes.. the 70's 🙂

Originally posted by The MISTER
Because the Bible says pride is something that god hates. Repeatedly. Also Jesus openly rebuked the pharisees for their pride.

I'm a christian and have been repeatedly turned off by people who claim christianity and then play, "Lets guess who's going to hell and why!!".
I'm not surprised that people are laughing at blatant hypocrisy. Witnessing has it's time and place( like a funeral is one places I've heard it's frowned upon and done anyway) but some folks act as though they're in the position of authority to save your soul whenever you get ready.

Pride is at the core of behaving like this so I thought this would be the right place to ask peoples honest opinions.
Most of the cool christians I know don't usually go to church that much they're just into the Bible. They act like normal people, really,and serious about not-judging people.

Churchgoers are a different story.

So people who go to church are all prideful hypocrites? I don't think so.

I, for one, go to church, and do not consider myself in that category. Furthermore, I don't think the majority of the people I know who go to church fit into that category.

Re: Are Christians too proud?

Originally posted by The MISTER
I want to know if most Christians that you meet act down to earth or high and mighty. And how has their behavior influenced ( if it has ) you?

I doubt christians are any less or more proud than members of any other religion. They all exist as a matter of certainty for those who subscribe to them.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Ahh yes.. the 70's 🙂
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Originally posted by The MISTER
Ahh yes.. the 70's 🙂

I don't see how it's like that at all.

Originally posted by Mindship
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Originally posted by TacDavey
So people who go to church are all prideful hypocrites? I don't think so.

I, for one, go to church, and do not consider myself in that category. Furthermore, I don't think the majority of the people I know who go to church fit into that category.

You don't come off like a prideful hypocrite and so I'd imagine that you would attend a church where most of the people there aren't. I've been to churches where there is a commitment to preaching the GOOD NEWS rather than fire and brimstone. You can tell a lot about a church from it's congregation. The churchgoers I'm referring to are the many that consider people lost unless they go to the exact same type of church that they do. These are the people who push you to attend their church so that you can receive the "true" gospel, even if you tell them that you attend a different church. I've had many experiences with these people because I enjoy talking about God, and when they see that I'm very familiar with the Bible they act as though their church will complete an incomplete individual. This has happened to me more times than I can count throughout my adult life. I was just curious as to whether or not others have had similar experiences or not. I'm glad to hear that you haven't. As you can see some others have not been so fortunate.

Re: Are Christians too proud?

Originally posted by The MISTER
I want to know if most Christians that you meet act down to earth or high and mighty. And how has their behavior influenced ( if it has ) you?

The only openly religious people I've met was my housemate and his friends at Uni and they were very down to earth about the whole thing, considering myself and the other guy who shared the house were non-believers. I don't know if that was uncomfortable for him or not, that wasn't really apparent because we all got on. He spoke of his religion, his love of Hillsong (he was a really big fan of that) and he even invited us to participate in a couple of worship sessions.

We didn't pray with them because like I said, we weren't believers but we openly talked about the subject pretty easily enough. In my opinion they seemed to take great strength from their beliefs which can only be a good thing. I don't think it's infuenced me at all, I still don't subscribe to any religious beliefs but I guess I'm more aware of how it affects people and how they use it to overcome problems in life.

Originally posted by The MISTER
You don't come off like a prideful hypocrite and so I'd imagine that you would attend a church where most of the people there aren't. I've been to churches where there is a commitment to preaching the GOOD NEWS rather than fire and brimstone. You can tell a lot about a church from it's congregation. The churchgoers I'm referring to are the many that consider people lost unless they go to the exact same type of church that they do. These are the people who push you to attend their church so that you can receive the "true" gospel, even if you tell them that you attend a different church. I've had many experiences with these people because I enjoy talking about God, and when they see that I'm very familiar with the Bible they act as though their church will complete an incomplete individual. This has happened to me more times than I can count throughout my adult life. I was just curious as to whether or not others have had similar experiences or not. I'm glad to hear that you haven't. As you can see some others have not been so fortunate.

It just sounded like you were claiming that anyone who goes to church is a prideful hypocrite.

Obviously you have good and bad churches like you have good and bad.... anything else. If it's run by people, it's never exempt from the possibility of being one or the other.

To really understand the Bible and see the truth, one must be very well educated in the occult. The mass mind is very powerful. When one studies long enough and acquires advanced knowledge of the occult, the truth is utterly shocking. The entire Judeo/Christian Bible is a hoax of catastrophic proportions with a very clear objective using subliminal means and the channeled psychic energy of believers.

Whenever Christianity or its cohorts took control of a country or region, the ancient spiritual texts and records were removed and/or destroyed and those who had spiritual knowledge were mass murdered by the Inquisition. This took out of circulation the very knowledge those in power have used and still use to manipulate the ignorant population using spiritual/occult power. The Bible is one of the most powerful subliminal tools used by a select few to enslave the masses. Most people are unaware of this because they lack knowledge regarding the occult, thought power, and psychic energy. The powers that be work to reinforce the belief that the occult, powers of the mind and spirit are nonsense or just plain bunk.

Destroying the ancient records allowed an alternative invented "history" to be written which has disconnected humanity from its true origins. Controlling history is important because if one manipulates how people see what we call the past, this influences the present and the future.

The entire Bible is an extremely powerful subliminal tool full of occult numbers, messages, allegories, and stolen material, which has been corrupted from ancient religions. In addition, this book has been infused with psychic energy and power to instill fear and to make it believable. When one's eyes are opened and one has the necessary knowledge, the *spell* will no longer be effective. The entire underlying theme of the Judeo/Christian Bible is the establishment of the fictitious history of the Jewish people in the mass mind. What the mass mind believes has power and the energy to make manifest in reality as thoughts are energy

There are vacuum-sealed vaults in the Vatican library containing thousands upon thousands of ancient esoteric books from around the world that have been stolen and hoarded over the years and kept out of public circulation. The Catholic Church, which is the root of the Christian religion, is controlled by a secret society that has abused occult power to enslave the masses. The end goal is the total enslavement of humanity, which they have worked towards relentlessly and ruthlessly.

All of this has directly affected each and every one of us. Humanity has suffered unnecessarily because of the denial of this knowledge. People have been coerced over the centuries into paying for their own damnation to the tune of billions and billions of dollars to keep this lie prospering and continuing strong. The survival and prosperity of this vicious hoax on humanity requires only ONE thing- A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!

Contrary to what most people have been indoctrinated with, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are relatively new religions. Humanity goes back tens of thousands of years. These three have worked relentlessly to keep us from spiritual/occult knowledge and using this power, of which all of us have.

These so-called "religions" are built upon murder, torture, and lies and the only way any lie of this magnitude can survive is to create more and more lies and destroy the peoples who know the truth. Christianity is nothing more than a program. There is nothing religious or spiritual about it. Millions of people suffer depression, hopelessness, and confusion about life. The soul needs light and very few know this or actively practice the power meditation that will literally "save" their own souls. Because of a lack of knowledge and ignorance of the occult, Humanity as a whole has been placed under a powerful spell using occult power and indoctrinated not to question, concerning these three so-called "religions." This has been reinforced by centuries of Christians being duped into supplying their psychic energy and souls to be channeled into perpetuating this lie, which in the end, will only benefit a select few.

Originally posted by muabesos
To really understand the Bible and see the truth, one must be very well educated in the occult. The mass mind is very powerful. When one studies long enough and acquires advanced knowledge of the occult, the truth is utterly shocking. The entire Judeo/Christian Bible is a hoax of catastrophic proportions with a very clear objective using subliminal means and the channeled psychic energy of believers.

Whenever Christianity or its cohorts took control of a country or region, the ancient spiritual texts and records were removed and/or destroyed and those who had spiritual knowledge were mass murdered by the Inquisition. This took out of circulation the very knowledge those in power have used and still use to manipulate the ignorant population using spiritual/occult power. The Bible is one of the most powerful subliminal tools used by a select few to enslave the masses. Most people are unaware of this because they lack knowledge regarding the occult, thought power, and psychic energy. The powers that be work to reinforce the belief that the occult, powers of the mind and spirit are nonsense or just plain bunk.

Destroying the ancient records allowed an alternative invented "history" to be written which has disconnected humanity from its true origins. Controlling history is important because if one manipulates how people see what we call the past, this influences the present and the future.

The entire Bible is an extremely powerful subliminal tool full of occult numbers, messages, allegories, and stolen material, which has been corrupted from ancient religions. In addition, this book has been infused with psychic energy and power to instill fear and to make it believable. When one's eyes are opened and one has the necessary knowledge, the *spell* will no longer be effective. The entire underlying theme of the Judeo/Christian Bible is the establishment of the fictitious history of the Jewish people in the mass mind. What the mass mind believes has power and the energy to make manifest in reality as thoughts are energy

There are vacuum-sealed vaults in the Vatican library containing thousands upon thousands of ancient esoteric books from around the world that have been stolen and hoarded over the years and kept out of public circulation. The Catholic Church, which is the root of the Christian religion, is controlled by a secret society that has abused occult power to enslave the masses. The end goal is the total enslavement of humanity, which they have worked towards relentlessly and ruthlessly.

All of this has directly affected each and every one of us. Humanity has suffered unnecessarily because of the denial of this knowledge. People have been coerced over the centuries into paying for their own damnation to the tune of billions and billions of dollars to keep this lie prospering and continuing strong. The survival and prosperity of this vicious hoax on humanity requires only ONE thing- A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!

Contrary to what most people have been indoctrinated with, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are relatively new religions. Humanity goes back tens of thousands of years. These three have worked relentlessly to keep us from spiritual/occult knowledge and using this power, of which all of us have.

These so-called "religions" are built upon murder, torture, and lies and the only way any lie of this magnitude can survive is to create more and more lies and destroy the peoples who know the truth. Christianity is nothing more than a program. There is nothing religious or spiritual about it. Millions of people suffer depression, hopelessness, and confusion about life. The soul needs light and very few know this or actively practice the power meditation that will literally "save" their own souls. Because of a lack of knowledge and ignorance of the occult, Humanity as a whole has been placed under a powerful spell using occult power and indoctrinated not to question, concerning these three so-called "religions." This has been reinforced by centuries of Christians being duped into supplying their psychic energy and souls to be channeled into perpetuating this lie, which in the end, will only benefit a select few.

Aside from being complete illogical rubbish, this post has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread. You should go post your ramblings somewhere else before someone alerts a moderator. 😠

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Originally posted by muabesos
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So this is the workings of a mind that has freed itself from the slavery of psychic oppression. A representation of the way that Bible haters minds' work. I'd say it paints a pretty accurate picture of the flaws in their brains, and the anger that gave birth to those flaws. HA! you must be pretty mad at God, considering your previous rant. Oh well, hope you calm down someday.

In my humble opinion, people in general are prideful, despite their religious faith/views - so... why the post regarding Christians? People are ignorant, and we don't need to bring about their religious beliefs to make sense of things. Ignorance and being prideful, are characteristics of being human. I know of an Indian girl I dated for about 2 years that was disowned by her parents for rejecting Hinduism. I also know, a good friend of my brother, that was kicked out the house. Apparently, he disagreed with his parents on the message of the Latter Day Saints - Jehovah's Witnesses. I also have knowledge of Muslim parents rejecting their sons for disobedience to Islam. Parents exist in this world that abandon their sons/daughters for being gay. This type of nonsense is universal, regardless of religious faith/views. People are prideful and ignorant - who cares if they were Christian or liked to play Bingo. It's irrelevant.

Originally posted by ushomefree
In my humble opinion, people in general are prideful, despite their religious faith/views - so... why the post regarding Christians? People are ignorant, and we don't need to bring about their religious beliefs to make sense of things. Ignorance and being prideful, are characteristics of being human. I know of an Indian girl I dated for about 2 years that was disowned by her parents for rejecting Hinduism. I also know, a good friend of my brother, that was kicked out the house. Apparently, he disagreed with his parents on the message of the Latter Day Saints - Jehovah's Witnesses. I also have knowledge of Muslim parents rejecting their sons for disobedience to Islam. Parents exist in this world that abandon their sons/daughters for being gay. This type of nonsense is universal, regardless of religious faith/views. People are prideful and ignorant - who cares if they were Christian or liked to play Bingo. It's irrelevant.
Is it really though? Or is that Religious education, the values they belief through teaching that their Christian God holds, has an impact on how you behave, say whether you view homosexuality as unnatural and would disown a homosexual son?

yes... but so are atheists, jews, muslims, etc.

Originally posted by red g jacks
yes... but so are atheists, jews, muslims, etc.

Not really for atheists of course as there is no set of beliefs that they must have in common. But sure Jews and Muslims and Communists and whoever subscribes to a certain ideology. But that doesn't make it irrelevant, on the contrary, it makes the ideal of ideologies extremely relevant, don't you think?

Originally posted by The MISTER
Are Christians too proud?

no

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not really for atheists of course as there is no set of beliefs that they must have in common. But sure Jews and Muslims and Communists and whoever subscribes to a certain ideology. But that doesn't make it irrelevant, on the contrary, it makes the ideal of ideologies extremely relevant, don't you think?
no, it applies to atheists too. the pride doesn't arise strictly from organized religion or sacred texts. humans are perfectly capable of being proud on their own, and many atheists do take on a condescending tone towards people with opposing views.

The claim of the post I replied to and the subject of my post were not about "pride" though.