I'm curious what the point of this thread really is? To me, it just seems like you weren't content with the discussion in the Flash/Zoom vs. Odin thread, so you carried it over here. :/
Anyway, for the sake of argument, they likely wouldn't be able to beat (as in kill/KO) any 'true' Skyfather. However, I think they could beat anyone in between.
Originally posted by Galan007Certainly not Chaos war herc or thor. giving opponents CIS off makes Galactus a no go but certainly on panel CIS on just for Big G he would lose because he just fails that hard.
I'm curious what the point of this thread really is? To me, it just seems like you weren't content with the discussion in the Flash/Zoom vs. Odin thread, so you carried it over here. :/Anyway, for the sake of argument, they likely wouldn't be able to beat (as in kill/KO) any 'true' Skyfather. However, I think they could beat anyone in between.
Question... Do opponents get gear for what they would use against hard hitting opponents. It makes a big difference.
Originally posted by Galan007I got tired of asking this specific question and no one answering. Thank you for input by the way Galan. can you name a specific character to illustrate?
I'm curious what the point of this thread really is? To me, it just seems like you weren't content with the discussion in the Flash/Zoom vs. Odin thread, so you carried it over here. :/Anyway, for the sake of argument, they likely wouldn't be able to beat (as in kill/KO) any 'true' Skyfather. However, I think they could beat anyone in between.
Originally posted by Uriel005if it is standard, sure. but they get no prep
Certainly not Chaos war herc or thor. giving opponents CIS off makes Galactus a no go but certainly on panel CIS on just for Big G he would lose because he just fails that hard.Question... Do opponents get gear for what they would use against hard hitting opponents. It makes a big difference.
I made a thread years ago about who would beat Zoom. The question was indeed answered, but it was no need to drag my thread off topic with it.
Characters who they cannot harm, characters with certain special abilities or with shields up and have powerful abilities (ala Strange).
Galan, define "true skyfather" just so I know exactly what 'you' mean.
Originally posted by Tha C-Masterby character they cannot harm, do you mean things like default intangibiltiy? what other special abilities?
I made a thread years ago about who would beat Zoom. The question was indeed answered, but it was no need to drag my thread off topic with it.Characters who they cannot harm, characters with certain special abilities or with shields up and have powerful abilities (ala Strange).
Galan, define "true skyfather" just so I know exactly what 'you' mean.
I'd also like to point out taht the thread is not about who is the weakest being that can defeat them, but the strongest one that they can defeat.
Originally posted by 753High or true invulnerability.
by character they cannot harm, do you mean things like default intangibiltiy? what other special abilities?I'd also like to point out taht the thread is not about who is the weakest being that can defeat them, but the strongest one that they can defeat.
It is similar in some ways, because it is about who can avoid whose power-set and who can exploit whose weaknesses.
Originally posted by Starscream M
they could at the very least beat Galactushe isn't fast enough to react to them, and their ability to generate whitedwarf level punches are more than enough to beat him considering he's been harmed by far, far less.
beyond galactus, I would say they start having trouble though.
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Originally posted by Tha C-Masteryes but with one, you'd get characters like loa and wun-darr that are pretty weak all arround but can counter their powers. Im more interested in the reverse, how far beyond their weightclass, their powers can take them.
High or true invulnerability.It is similar in some ways, because it is about who can avoid whose power-set and who can exploit whose weaknesses.
Originally posted by Starscream M
so you disagree? tell me how galactus beat them...and don't just say 'he's galactus, he wins'
Considering he's survived battles which have destroyed galaxies and such, I'd say he could easily weather a speedblitz from the two of them.
Sure he's been hurt by less, but the majority of showings have him easily durable enough to be fine.
+ when Doom gained Galactus' power, his senses increased so he could see "the quivering movements of every atom" or something like that, so I'm pretty sure Galactus could perceive them.
But either way, Galactus has pretty much a thousand ways to deal with them, and even if he can't perceive their movements, he can stand there, take their hits then mindrape/bfr/omni directionally blast them/teleport them etc etc.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Considering he's survived battles which have destroyed galaxies and such, I'd say he could easily weather a speedblitz from the two of them.
Sure he's been hurt by less, but the majority of showings have him easily durable enough to be fine.+ when Doom gained Galactus' power, his senses increased so he could see "the quivering movements of every atom" or something like that, so I'm pretty sure Galactus could perceive them.
But either way, Galactus has pretty much a thousand ways to deal with them, and even if he can't perceive their movements, he can stand there, take their hits then mindrape/bfr/omni directionally blast them/teleport them etc etc.
Galactus has been more often damaged than not (also not withstanding, surviving a galaxy destroying battle isn't a clear indicator of durability in of itself)
He has been damaged by a Thanos blast
He has been damaged by a Thor godblast
He has been damaged by a beta ray bill hammer toss
now, none of those attacks approximate the power of a white dwarf.
galactus also has shown no reflex speed at all and seems to be extremely easy to hit.
you have failed to convince me that galactus could beat them.
Originally posted by Starscream MAssume their powers are at their very best and the same goes for the competition. You always do this in every thread you don't even support your own argument in the end and continue to make ignorant comment after ignorant comment.
they could at the very least beat Galactushe isn't fast enough to react to them, and their ability to generate whitedwarf level punches are more than enough to beat him considering he's been harmed by far, far less.
beyond galactus, I would say they start having trouble though.
Galactus pretty much solo'd the a wave and obliterated a watcher/billions of others while weakened. He also bestowed surfer's powers to him do you honestly think surfer's flight is something he can't perceive ?
You also citing weakened Galactus showings to prove your case shows you didn't even read the opening post.