Originally posted by Endless Mike
I don't think this really counts as an argument - he was tricked into absorbing the Continuum universe and thought he had absorbed all of reality, true, but if his goal was to turn everything into nothing, then scale couldn't really be judged. After all, how do you have nothing and then more nothing? As long as he couldn't sense that other universes and dimensions still existed, he had no reason to doubt he had accomplished his goal.
This is true.Some people debate by using feats.Some debate by using the nature of the Characters.Some debate by lowballing.Feats are sometimes not a good way of debating.One example is Hulk vs Doomsady.Hulk has more appearances and has lots of strength feats compared to Doomsday.Does that result in an auto win?A lot of Doomsday fans will disagree and will use the nature of what Doomsday is.They'll say Doomsday will own Hulk because he lacks internal organs etc.I'm inclined to agree with some of the logic Doomsday fans throw.I did admit I'm a villain type of guy.But I could also Hulk could beat Doomsday through BFR if it is allowed.Current DD, No way Hulk can beat him.
Originally posted by rotiart
@endless mike: the argument that he would have absorbed the entire multiverse is rather moot if the guy can't tell the difference between the actual multiverse and a pocket universe.
Again most villains end up being defeated through plot device.If you want to disagree with this, then you don't really know how hero-villain routine story workout.For the Chaos King, it was because he absorbed too much too quickly, he ended up being blinded by his own darkness.
Originally posted by rotiart
@igniz: what is shown on panel as being done by the chaos king is nothing compared to what the antimonitor did. Pull up the vague writer references you want. It wasn't verified on panel.
Alright wiseguy.At times feat matters.At times its the nature of the character which Endless Mike pointed out.I tried being nice.You disagree The Chaos King is the Void in the beginning.Lets start with Thor Annual#10 to prove what FVL and GP stated.This is on Panel.
Now lets see the on panel description stated in Defenders vol 3 #3
Dormammu combined all the Universes into one Universe in that story arc using the power of Eternity to trigger a creation event.And he described the Heart of Eternity being an Oceanic Void and Eternal Nothingness(Chaos King as Void in the beginning).Dormammu was only defeated because of his sister Umar's betrayal(another plot device).And Umar restored the Multiverse in that story arc.Now let see Hera's explanation about the Continuum in Assault on new Olympus.
How about Thrann when he stated the first mover(TOAA) bringing order in the Void,Darkness,and Chaos.
So they actually used references in past issues of Marvel's history.Remember Sasquatch stating the Chaos King is becoming a Black Hole.
Here's a trip to Marvel History about the Time Bubble.The Time Bubble phenomena might have been used as reference on how The Chaos King's powers worked.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/timebubblegalactus.htm
Now I will admit COIE Anti-Monitor has uber feats.But as pointed out, the Nature of the Character is another thing to take into account.Anti-Monitor as I pointed out is one of my favorite villains.So no favoritism in my part.I just showed the scans to clear some misconception and to prove CK is the void in the beginning and as a dark half of true Eternity.
