Originally posted by srankmissingninhttp://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential2.jpg
Let me know when Batman accomplishes the equivalent of effortlessly defeating Shang-Chi in three panels, or successfully executes a potentially fatal pressure point on someone as skilled as Captain America. Wolverine's skill feats are superior to Batman's by a notable margin. There is nothing to suggest Batman is more skilled aside from blind fanboy bias.
That look like fanboy bias to you? Mabye on your end...but batman beats the ever loving shit out of logan under these stips.
This borders on spite.
If we remove factors such as his enhances senses, healing factor, adamantium skeleton, claws, above human level stats, etc, can the case still be made for Logan's skill surpassing that of Batman? I know that removing those things from Logan hampers him, and I don't think many people would argue the point of Batman being able to beat him if he has all those things going for him directly, but wouldn't Logan's mutant powers and enhancements amplify the skill he does have?
Serious question, but has Logan ever been completely depowered and rendered absolutely, for the sake of argument, "human" and shown skill to clearly surpass Batman?
Originally posted by Black bolt z
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential6.jpgThat look like fanboy bias to you? Mabye on your end...but batman beats the ever loving shit out of logan under these stips.
This borders on spite.
Batman actually has legitimate non-PIS fueled skill feats to use in his favor outside of that crap of a comic.
Originally posted by Black bolt zThat's a nice feat but hardly a H2H achievement.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential6.jpgThat look like fanboy bias to you? Mabye on your end...but batman beats the ever loving shit out of logan under these stips.
This borders on spite.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential6.jpgThat look like fanboy bias to you? Mabye on your end...but batman beats the ever loving shit out of logan under these stips.
This borders on spite.
You are aware that people have been questioning the canonicity of Batman Confidential since the first arc when it essentially retcon'd the Killing Joke? Anyway... what does hitting Wonder Woman in the stomach and forcing her to breath in a mouth full of gas have to do with this discussion? This is a h2h thread.
Originally posted by srankmissingninBruce kicks Logan in the stomach then forces him to breathe in a mouth full of fist.
You are aware that people have been questioning the canonicity of Batman Confidential since the first arc when it essentially retcon'd the Killing Joke? Anyway... what does hitting Wonder Woman in the stomach and forcing her to breath in a mouth full of gas have to do with this discussion? This is a h2h thread.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If we remove factors such as his enhances senses, healing factor, adamantium skeleton, claws, above human level stats, etc, can the case still be made for Logan's skill surpassing that of Batman? I know that removing those things from Logan hampers him, and I don't think many people would argue the point of Batman being able to beat him if he has all those things going for him directly, but wouldn't Logan's mutant powers and enhancements amplify the skill he does have?Serious question, but has Logan ever been completely depowered and rendered absolutely, for the sake of argument, "human" and shown skill to clearly surpass Batman?
Every time Wolverine has been depowered to a human level... he's been dying of Adamantium poisoning and barely functioning.
Originally posted by Badabing
Batman put down Grundy with pressure shots. Logan gets put in a coma with the thread stips.
Wolverine one shotted Rogue with pressure points, and unlike Batman, Wolverine has actually demonstarted the ability to successfully use pressure points on top tier martial artists.
Originally posted by srankmissingninSo he has absolutely no feats to say he can do the things he does with normal skills.
Every time Wolverine has been depowered to a human level... he's been dying of Adamantium poisoning and barely functioning.
Bruce breaks all his rips with one kick then smashes in his face.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
So he has absolutely no feats to say he can do the things he does with normal skills.Bruce breaks all his rips with one kick then smashes in his face.
Wolverine is only barely superhuman to begin with, it's not like it is a drastic drop down to peak human. He'll be what? Half as fast, and 1/4 as strong as he normally is? He still has superior skill feats. Batman can't take the majority form Wolverine is a skill fight.
Originally posted by srankmissingninWell, I don't know what this "demonstarted" is all about but I intend to find out. Batman doesn't need to draw deeply into his fighting repertoire to fight what you consider top tiers. He simply bat-slaps then bat-kicks the mooks. Normal stats = Wolvie ending up in a pain locker. Logan gets a long rest via bat-coma.
Wolverine one shotted Rogue with pressure points, and unlike Batman, Wolverine has actually demonstarted the ability to successfully use pressure points on top tier martial artists.
