Weak evidence is better than pure speculation. And I don't see how it is weak. Kreia is basically saying that The Exile can't defeat Sion there because Korriban is empowering him, however at a diffrent place and a diffrent time she could. The other has Sion saying Malachor V is making him immortal.
That is hardly what one considers "weak".
Originally posted by ares834Yes there will 😬.
Never said an diffrently. But in a nuetral setting there will be nothing stopping Yoda or Windu from killing him.
He isn't immortal. He is however still incredibly hard to kill. He suffered fatal injuries while not on malachor or korriban.
Originally posted by truejediWhile they are doing that traya cuts them to ribbons.
hmmmm, how many life-endangering injuries has Luke recieved, but he isn't dead. He was in a bacta tank for crying out loud. Life-endangering does not mean life-ending.Secondly: What happens when he gets beheaded, and then Yoda sits on his head and Mace sits on his body? Then he can't get his head back with his body, I think he would lose by TKO.
Originally posted by ares834
And yet we don't know where he sustained such injuries.
Many Force users possess a natural affinity for supernatural healing. Sion is likely gifted with relatively extraordinary vitality even in locations not powerful with the dark side, but the dialogue from Traya and Sion himself indicate he is only immortal on dark side worlds.
Originally posted by ares834Actually you'd have to prove they were no places strong with the dark side.
And yet we don't know where he sustained such injuries. If there is proof that he sustained any of these injuries on places not strong with the dark side I will concede.
Considering that there are 2 places that strong with the DS and many others that are not its more likely to be not.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Actually you'd have to prove they were no places strong with the dark side.Considering that there are 2 places that strong with the DS and many others that are not its more likely to be not.
whatever his disagreement with me, I can assure you that whatever you just said is not the case. I think BOP would be on me? Which I have fulfilled to the best of my ability. The discussion is basically over, and the answer is that Sion either is or is not functionally immortal, depending on your opinion of Kreia.
Originally posted by Zampanó
Nah, ares is cool.whatever his disagreement with me, I can assure you that whatever you just said is not the case. I think BOP would be on me? Which I have fulfilled to the best of my ability. The discussion is basically over, and the answer is that Sion either is or is not functionally immortal, depending on your opinion of Kreia.
You win some, you lose some Z. Unless you're me, then you win 'em all! 😉
Originally posted by ZampanóYou don't have to be immortal to beat mace or yoda though 😉
Nah, ares is cool.whatever his disagreement with me, I can assure you that whatever you just said is not the case. I think BOP would be on me? Which I have fulfilled to the best of my ability. The discussion is basically over, and the answer is that Sion either is or is not functionally immortal, depending on your opinion of Kreia.
For the record, in neither of the two quotes presented in this thread are Malachor V or Korriban (or any location with a given significance of darkside presence for that matter) stated to be requirements for Sion's ability to work.
"As long as the dark places of this world flow through the cracks of my flesh. I can not be killed."
Malachor V's darkside energies can only neccessarily be said to be required for Darth Sion's power to remain active to the extent that, at that particular point in time, the only energies he had access to that he needed were those located on Malachor V. It's entirely possible that the reference to Malachor V was incidental to the basic ability of preventing himself from dying, and determinent solely to the ability to prevent himself from dying as it related to his given situation. For Sion's power to remain in effect, energies are required, and as he is located at Malachor V, the "dark places of this world" are specifically required (the dark places either because Sion requires darkside energies specifically or the lightside presence of the world wasn't adequate). The requirement could be entirely situational. The extent to which Malachor V's darkside energies are required are not specified.
"There will be another time. But it is not now, not here, while Korriban runs through him."
All that is neccessarily being said here is that Sion would not be defeated there and then, but at a later date. It is not neccessarily being said that Sion would not be defeated there and then because they were located at Korriban, but simply that it wouldn't happen there and then, where they happened to be located at Korriban, but at another time. It's again entirely possible that the reference to Korriban was incidental to them not being able to defeat him there and then, and not determinent to it.