Ron Paul talks health care.

Started by skekUng3 pages
Originally posted by Bardock42
I am glad you two found fellowship in your ignorance.

Can you expound on that?

Or perhaps something I mentioned in my first post?

Oh, and don't answer under the premise that your candidate is right simply by virtue that he is the one you support. How is Mr. Paul's perspective most right because he isn't Obama or Hillary or McCain. Talk about the economic principles espoused by your man who refuses not to abandon a party that abandoned his economic perspective in favor of the Friedman mindset while espousing the Jefferson or Lincoln principles.

Originally posted by skekUng
Bullshit. It might mean to you what you want it to imply, but that was not my intention. In fact, every time you call it Obamacare, you not only illustrate your own intentional ignorance of the reality, but ignore that what you call Obamacare is only a few degrees off of what would have ended up being called Dolecare in 1997.

'Of, by and for' represents more of what is America than what too many have been duped into calling socialism, as though it were at all a bad and unrealistic thing, than does anything Reagan or Obama have done. Socialized medicare is more American and far more in line with FDR's 2nd bill of human rights than anything accomplished by any President or political party in the last 30 years.

There is also a difference between what the President campaigned on and attempted, along with Hillary in the '90s, than is realistically possible in the corporate bully is king atmosphere that currently runs America.

Can you tell me why what I say is wrong, instead of just calling me ignorant?

Originally posted by menokokoro
Can you tell me why what I say is wrong, instead of just calling me ignorant?

Correction, "Intentional ignorance." AKA, ignorance on purpose...which is such an oxymoron that it actually cannot be correct. What he probably meant was "feigned ignorance."

Split hairs aside, my post was fairly blatant, tubby.

take it to the bike racks, boys

Originally posted by skekUng
Split hairs aside, my post was fairly blatant, tubby.

Has menokokoro even posted a picture of himself? How do you know he's "tubby"? And was that necessary?

Originally posted by skekUng
Split hairs aside, my post was fairly blatant, tubby.
Not really, you didn't talk about any of my points, I gave several steps as to why the "obamacare" would be a bad idea, you simply said statements with nothing to back them up.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Has menokokoro even posted a picture of himself? How do you know he's "tubby"? And was that necessary?

I'm talking to you, e-stud.

Originally posted by skekUng
I'm talking to you, e-stud.

Well, that doesn't make much sense.

About Ron Paul's Healthcare vids from 2007...

The elipsis should come before the Ron Paul video comment.

say what you want, the man has an eye for an ellipsis, ddm

🙂

Re: Ron Paul talks health care.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Pretty much any video of his is worth watching.

Now THIS is a good thread of yours because you hit the nail right on the head there. 👆

Obamacare is the dumbest name for this health care law... given that the final product is nowhere near what Obama had actually wanted. If anything it should be "republicare".

Originally posted by King Kandy
Obamacare is the dumbest name for this health care law... given that the final product is nowhere near what Obama had actually wanted. If anything it should be "republicare".

No, Obamacare is pretty accurate since like most things he does, it's lazy, half-assed, and sells out the public to corporations. Republicare would be decriminalizing suicide and making unemployment and infirmity over 10 weeks a capital offense.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
No, Obamacare is pretty accurate since like most things he does, it's lazy, half-assed, and sells out the public to corporations. Republicare would be decriminalizing suicide and making unemployment and infirmity over 10 weeks a capital offense.

I live in Oregon where we do have decriminalized suicide... you really think it was the republicans pushing for it?

Originally posted by King Kandy
I live in Oregon where we do have decriminalized suicide... you really think it was the republicans pushing for it?

I went over a lot of those stats in a 3rd year social psych course

very cool stuff, pretty convincing too 🙂

TBH I think it has less to do with political bent than the whole contrarian nature of Oregon politics... we have close to equal proportions of reactionary conservatives and radical liberals that means, so many strange ideas come to the surface that we end up having very different policies than other states.

huh, like what else?

mail-in voting (sooo convenient)
2nd Highest minimum wage in country
no sales tax
very low tax rates
Passed a bottle-return bill before anyone else did
had an anti-gay marriage measure that came very close to passing
early medical marijuana measure
one of the first state to start using popular initiatives