The Royal Wedding.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
It could easily be argued, that the monarchy are lucky the civil war in the U.K. allowed them to keep anything, I know this has nothing to do with management of the crown estates which is a modern way of allowing them to exist as a semi palatable constitutional monarchy, despite the fact we still don't have a constitution. Mr. Cameron where is your bill of rights?

Had our revolution happened a hundred years later like in France they would not have kept their heads, led alone property. It could also be argued anything they have really belongs to the people and a redistribution of wealth is in order.

A King is a thing men have made for their own sakes, for quietness' sake.
- John Selden, Table Talk (1696 edition)

If you want to advocate simply stealing land from people that own it then fine, but I don't think that has much to do with being somehow progressive or superior, let alone your implication that we should have murdered the family and taken all of it.

Lots of very rich people own a LOT of land. I would advance that the fact this THIS family gives some 90% of the money from that land to the Government for public use makes them very much not a problem.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
If you want to advocate simply stealing land from people that own it then fine, but I don't think that has much to do with being somehow progressive or superior, let alone your implication that we should have murdered the family and taken all of it.

Lots of very rich people own a LOT of land. I would advance that the fact this THIS family gives some 90% of the money from that land to the Government for public use makes them very much not a problem.

I'm completely in favour of reparations to the people for everything royalty has done, the land went with being the king or queen. Such land should revert back to the people when they decide they do not want a king or queen. It's the crown 'of Britain's' land. When Britain decides it doesn't want a crown, what then?

My problems with the royals isn´t the money. It´s the whole idea of it, in a modern world there is ,imo, no need for a monarchy no matter how much money they bring in.

I of course wish Willy & kate well as I would anyone who is getting married. But celebrating, waving flags about and all that for someone Ive never met, well I just cannot grasp the idea. And the people who do go for it seem like sheep following a spectacle to me.

The Royals think its their god given right to be royal, I don´t except their god or them as my Queen/King.

Apart from that, it was an awesome show they put on for their surfs.

Originally posted by Bicnarok

The Royals think its their god given right to be royal, I don´t except their god or them as my Queen/King.

Apart from that, it was an awesome show they put on for their surfs.

I hardly think so. They know they are more or less figureheads these days. Years ago it would have been thought that God chose the Royal line or whatever, but in these modern times? Don't be silly.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
I'm completely in favour of reparations to the people for everything royalty has done, the land went with being the king or queen. Such land should revert back to the people when they decide they do not want a king or queen. It's the crown 'of Britain's' land. When Britain decides it doesn't want a crown, what then?

The land goes with being the family. It is inherited like any other land. It's very distinct from copious amounts of government-owned land.

Do you want to go around seizing the estates of any rich family that takes your fancy? Why you would start with the family that gives most of that money to the Government is beyond me.

Again, you are just talking about land seizure here. It puts you thoroughly in the wrong, morally.

And indeed, no-one has considered it a God-given right in centuries.

I think the idea of reparations, generally, is a bad idea.

Specifically, did Queen Elizabeth II commit atrocities against her own people? Did she treat them unfairly?

Why should she be punished when she's doing a darn fine job of being good to her people and giving much more than she takes? Seems she's already paid her reparations.

It is an interesting event I just hope this thread does not get close because someone may think of this thread as trolling. 🙄

I'm not sure about the situation in England (where this has probably been resolved), but I suppose in general one could make a case that the lands attributed to a monarch and a royal family could feasibly be attributed to the new form of government if the government form changes, which I might personally also consider moral.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
They don't cost ANYTHING to maintain. The Civil List that funds the Royal Household is paid in return for them surrendering the income from the Crown Estates, which is worth much more.

(in fact, soon the arrangement will be changed so that their upkeep is handled entirely from a portion of the crown estate, which will be much simpler)

In short- all the natural, massive amounts of family wealth they should have they instead GIVE to the government, in return for which the Government gives the Queen an allowance.

William will be Prince of Wales, a position funded entirely from the Duchy of Cornwall so that costs the taxpayer nothing also.

They don't cost us a bean (in fact they give the government far more than they take), and they do indeed bring in a lot of money.

I can finally die happy!

Originally posted by Nephthys
I can finally die happy!

Did you just take some Salvia?

Well it's better than inbreeding as it used to be.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Well it's better than inbreeding as it used to be.

How do you know, have you tried inbreeding?

Originally posted by Robtard
How do you know, have you tried inbreeding?

Nah, her parents did though.

what a waste of a day. now me and millions of others have to pay for this wedding

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, her parents did though.

Ha Ha.

I'm actually very intelligent, muy, muy. But you know this already. 😱

Originally posted by Bardock42
I'm not sure about the situation in England (where this has probably been resolved), but I suppose in general one could make a case that the lands attributed to a monarch and a royal family could feasibly be attributed to the new form of government if the government form changes, which I might personally also consider moral.

Absolutely and this is the crux of it all.

Originally posted by Deano
what a waste of a day. now me and millions of others have to pay for this wedding

Be funny if they're divorced within a year.

Originally posted by Deano
what a waste of a day. now me and millions of others have to pay for this wedding

But your paying them with their own money...

Originally posted by Robtard
Be funny if they're divorced within a year.

Anything is possible, this wedding might just be a car crash.