Loki vs. Martian Manhunter

Started by Don Corleone2 pagesPoll

Who wins ?

Loki vs. Martian Manhunter

Fight !

Current Loki loses, but Loki prior to that makes it interesting.

Dude! Great match up! I don't know if it's been done. If not then :tu: Do you even know how good they match up? Both got insane mental power, both shape shifters and can amp physical stats. Tons of stuff. MM was vulnerable to magic, not as much as Superman. (that was the case a few years ago). Yeah. I don't got a ****ing clue. I vote that when an awesome match up comes along like this, we get the mods to sticky it for a week or something. Like post of the week. It'll encourage quality threads. That a good Idea to you guys?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank Current Loki loses, but Loki prior to that makes it interesting.

did he lose his power or something?

Current Loki is a kid.

Good question. I didn't get why he said that myself.

Yeah, he's likely to relearn a lot of his previous talent in the pages of the current Journey into Mystery title, but as of now, Kid Loki would likely get straight up obliterated by J'onn. But "classic" Loki would give him one helluva fight.

Loki wins

Dude. Wtf is wrong with people giving one word answers? Explain or don't bother posting.

Originally posted by long pig
Dude. Wtf is wrong with people giving one word answers? Explain or don't bother posting.
I just dont see anything that MM can do to Loki really.

I think Loki's assorted spell craft would net him the victory ultimately, as his avenues of attack are pretty open ended. If J'onn went intangible, something which Loki himself can do, Loki would still be able to attack him with his spells. A mental confrontation could go either way, as Loki's mental prowess, while not as good as J'onn's, is supplemented by his magic spells.

Visually, this fight would be great if drawn by a top notch artist.

Originally posted by chomperx9
I just dont see anything that MM can do to Loki really.
Absolute physical supremacy. Way waaaaaay faster, way stronger and way more durable. Way better fighter. More intelligent and wise-experience(MM has all the knowledge of all of mars over i guess millions of years). Can loki handle a cl 100 blitz?

Originally posted by long pig
Absolute physical supremacy. Way waaaaaay faster, way stronger and way more durable. Way better fighter. More intelligent and wise-experience(MM has all the knowledge of all of mars over i guess millions of years). Can loki handle a cl 100 blitz?
How is MM more intelligent than Loki ? Please.

Originally posted by long pig
Absolute physical supremacy. Way waaaaaay faster, way stronger and way more durable. Way better fighter. More intelligent and wise-experience(MM has all the knowledge of all of mars over i guess millions of years). Can loki handle a cl 100 blitz?

If the blitz reaches him before Loki teleports or goes intangible or something else, I do think Loki's durability is enough to be able to sustain quite a few blows before falling. He has taken blows from the Destroyer Armor and Mjolnir tosses before and at point blank range.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How is MM more intelligent than Loki ? Please.
I just said how. MM is superhuman intelligent plus he's gotl the combined knowledge of every martian that's ever lived over the past million years. Mars was one of the most advanced cultures to exist. And MM has it all inside his head...from every map martial art that's ever existed to every super science stuff to all the wisdom that's ever existed on mars over the past million years. Loki has 2 thous years of learning on his own. No comparison.

physical edge of MM can be debatable but ultimately unnecessary since loki really doesn't need to to that if he doesn't want to.

i totally agree. he can handle a blitz long enough to put up a shield. This is a good fight.

Originally posted by long pig
I just said how. MM is superhuman intelligent plus he's gotl the combined knowledge of every martian that's ever lived over the past million years. Mars was one of the most advanced cultures to exist. And MM has it all inside his head...from every map martial art that's ever existed to every super science stuff to all the wisdom that's ever existed on mars over the past million years. Loki has 2 thous years of learning on his own. No comparison.
Since when does Loki only have two thousand years of experience ? MM isn't portrayed as the smartest guy in the room and I'd say it's safe to say most would say Batman is more intelligent than MM.

Loki has too many tricks and has fought a superior opponent to Mm as in Thor so I hardly see classic Loki even being winded for this one.

MM isn't smarter than Loki.

No way, no how.

Deal with it.

Loki wins. John's best hope is telepathy. Loki's too powerful for him otherwise.

Originally posted by long pig
Absolute physical supremacy. Way waaaaaay faster, way stronger and way more durable. Way better fighter. More intelligent and wise-experience(MM has all the knowledge of all of mars over i guess millions of years). Can loki handle a cl 100 blitz?

Martian Manhunter has faster movement speed but that's about it. Absolutely physical supremacy? You'd be hard pressed to prove this against a being

Far stronger? This is a real big misconception. People see Thor gaining the physical edge and they some how come to the conclusion that Loki is weak physically. Loki whether through amping or natural ability can make himself ridiculously strong. He can match John's strength. If he wants to, he can summon the Firesword and wreck John in close combat.

I've seen Loki completely physically outperform Masterson and I think Bill, match and even gain the edge over Thor temporarily. At one point, a portion of his essence inhabiting a mortal body was beating the shit out of the Merged Hulk IIRC. Said entity with a twitch of his finger created Fenris, Midgard Serpent and Hela stand ins that were powerful.

If John is a better fighter I can honestly say I haven't seen those skills be put to use.

More intelligent than Loki and wiser? What? That's a really bold claim my friend. Any feats come to mind?

What issue did John gain the experience of all Mars?