Osama Bin Laden Killed

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Who pulls the strings? What would they have to gain? Military.. There'd be no business for if there were no wars.. Oil companys maybe might have an interest in the Arab world.. Construction companies.. Theres all sorts of powerful people out there who influence how things work.

One things for sure, when we go to war its because the movers and shakers in the world want us to go to war. Its never got anything to do with protecting democracy, or disposing of dictators. Heck we in the West have no problem supporting dictators when they're on our side. When they're no its time to get rid of them (for democracy of course)

Oh yeah and theres the lizard people 😉

So the military creates wars to prove that the military is needed in the first place? Reminds of the the circular argument from Erik The Viking. 'We raid and pillage to pay for the next expedition. We go on expeditions to raid and pillage.'

Oil Companies I assume to make a profit off selling oil. Never mind that OPEC consist of 6-7 Middle Eastern countries, so they're essentially warring on themselves.

Construction companies I [again] assume to make a profit off re-building what the military has destroyed (in order to prove themselves) and they're probably using up a lot of fuel, which in turn helps the oil companies.

I think you may be on to something. The Military-Oil-Construction Axis of Evil.

not to mention, the argument that moneyed interests have a disproportionate influence on politics, or that America acts out of realpolitikal self-interest rather than democratic ethos is a far gulf from the argument that bush did 9-11 or that there is some conspiracy surrounding OBL's death perpetrated to manipulate the public at large

Originally posted by Robtard
So the military creates wars to prove that the military is needed in the first place?

Thats when the military makes the most money, during wars.

You know the connections between The ex Bush admin and so many big businesses including Oil, Military and Construction companies??!

Seriously our vote at the ballot box will never compare to the power and influence of Huge businesses like that..

But dnt get me wrong, im not saying the West is the Evil.. Its just the people who call the shots. The governments of the East are even more corrupt. People in power usually are. Always have been. The aid we give Pakistan for example hardly helps the country because the corrupt politicians eat it up.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Thats when the military makes the most money, during wars.

You know the connections between The ex Bush admin and so many big businesses including Oil, Military and Construction companies??!

Seriously our vote at the ballot box will never compare to the power and influence of Huge businesses like that..

But dnt get me wrong, im not saying the West is the Evil.. Its just the people who call the shots. The governments of the East are even more corrupt. People in power usually are. Always have been. The aid we give Pakistan for example hardly helps the country because the corrupt politicians eat it up.

You do realize the military can't declare war, right?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Thats when the military makes the most money, during wars.

So if we're to assume that the government/shadow cabinet/Illuminati/lizard men alliance are behind all this warring for economic profit then rather than making them look sinister and all powerful it makes them seem rather myopic and incompetent.

Militaries don't 'make money', they can however help an economy out by boosting industry/employment, so you could have an argument there except for the fact that unlike WWII where the entire country was involved in the war effort and as a result was pulled out of the Great Depression we've not seen unemployment curbed or industry boosted because we're not even that involved in these wars, the personal involvement of the average American amounts to waving the flag once in a while.

Given how much of the US's military consists of private contractors, the profit motive certainly plays a role.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Given how much of the US's military consists of private contractors, the profit motive certainly plays a role.

Just like for-profit colleges.

Originally posted by Robtard
You do realize the military can't declare war, right?

Please make an effort to understand what im saying. The world does not operate the way you've been told it does.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Actually the current wars haven't really netted us much economic gains...if anything they've been a major drain.

Im not talking about the economy.. The people with money could not care less about the ecomony and how the poor man suffers, as long as they are still wealthy.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Militaries don't 'make money',

Sorry "Military" is the wrong word im using there.. Private defence contractors might be more accurate. The people we buy weapons from when we go to war. Or what you think all those bullets and bombs are free of charge??

And thats just one big power and influence.. Big Oil giants, Construction Companies.. Theres a lot of big business out there that are behind most of what our governments do. Just read into how many connections there were between the senior Bush admin that started the last 2 wars, and huge Defence Contactors, Oil companies.. And then tell me You think they had no influence on them??

Dnt believe the bull that they're bombing the crud out of other countries for our freedom and safety. It doesn't make a difference to our freedom, and actually increases hate towards us so probably makes us less safe.

Not to mention its basically murder of thousands upon thousands of innocents we do ourselves when we bomb the crud out of other countries and then try and occupy them.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Please make an effort to understand what im saying. The world does not operate the way you've been told it does.

Um... the Military can't declare wars. 😐

Also, you do realize that big evil corporations staying rich depends on poor people being comfortable, right? So, yah, the wealthy do kind of care about the economy, as it's the little guy that makes the world go round.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13385597

Can you understand why I'm so confused about this Pakistan issue?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

And I personally think anyone whose buying this story that they've just killed Bin Laden and immediately dumped the body has to be pretty damn naive.

I thought so at first too but then it occured to me that Obama would have no chance of being re elected if bin Laden turned up alive.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican

Also, you do realize that big evil corporations staying rich depends on poor people being comfortable, right? .

Not really. Many of the people running said corporations don't even care about the corporation. If the corporation goes bankrupt or liquidates most of the people at the top still "make theirs".

I would hate to be one of the 1% richest people in the world if the rest of world collapsed.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
I thought so at first too but then it occured to me that Obama would have no chance of being re elected if bin Laden turned up alive.

Oh Im sure he's dead. But I seriously doubt he was killed last week, just down to the fact they just shot him and threw him into the sea immediately. Can you imagine if Pakistan said they did that? Would anyone believe them??

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Um... the Military can't declare wars. 😐

And I said the military declared wars when exactly? Thats why I said at least make an effort to try and understand my points whether you agree with them or not.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Also, you do realize that big evil corporations staying rich depends on poor people being comfortable, right? So, yah, the wealthy do kind of care about the economy, as it's the little guy that makes the world go round.

To an extent.. If no one was spending money, then it'd be hard to make profits. And yet energy companies keep putting their prices up and declaring even larger profits while we are struggling to meet those costs. The rich guy are living pretty comfortably right now, especially the big CEO's of Banks and energy companies. They're laughing at the rest of us struggling to make ends meet.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I would hate to be one of the 1% richest people in the world if the rest of world collapsed.

Really? I'd hate to be in the bottom 1%. Can you tell me which CEO of a big bank, Oil company or Defence contractor has really struggled through this recession??

It's not like this recession made the world collapse.

Originally posted by Liberator
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13385597

Can you understand why I'm so confused about this Pakistan issue?

Pakistan live in terror! Seriously, you go there and you will actually be scared of being blown up. Whilst in the West theres much more chance of us being shot dead by a criminal, or even just dying in a car accident than there is of getting caught in a terror attack.

Originally posted by Liberator
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13385597

Can you understand why I'm so confused about this Pakistan issue?

ya, its a confusing place

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Pakistan live in terror! Seriously, you go there and you will actually be scared of being blown up. Whilst in the West theres much more chance of us being shot dead by a criminal, or even just dying in a car accident than there is of getting caught in a terror attack.

But the government says theres terrorists everywhere!!11

They apparently found a shit ton of porn at the compound. I never thought I'd see the day when I can say that, yes, I wanted to hang out with Osama Bin Laden.

why so you can look at porn together?

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