Defenders vs JLA

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Originally posted by I$suckalot
What does Hulk not being able to be killed have to do with anything? He can be KO'd.

You used the word kill.. But still I doubt someone whose arguably even stronger than Superman would be KO'd easily..

Originally posted by I$suckalot
Thanos has done that.

Flash isnt Thanos.. Not even close to his league.

Originally posted by I$suckalot
Plus I'm sure Flash could vibrate thru hulk and make him sick or something.

Yes there are other ways for Flash to defeat the Hulk. Im not denying that. I just do not see it being an instant win, not against someone with the strength to knock out Thor(well he has done so in the past), and defeat Gladiator.

Originally posted by I$suckalot
And Strange can still be put out of commission via magic negating. Flash is fast enough to tie strange up shields or not. All magic fails in the lasso.

So you mean Flash is going to get Wonder Woman's Lasso and put Strange in it??

Well no I still do not see how Flash is getting past Strange's shields to tie him up.. And thats assuming Flash gets the right Strange and not an illusion of him. On the other hand a Strange protected by a mystical shield could possibly (not definetely, but possibly) do a spell to put down the whole JLA.

Originally posted by I$suckalot
This fight is wierd. But Strange, Namor, and Hulk are all killed by Flash real fast. They just don't have the reflexes or speed to do anything. Batman and Guy Gardner are both mind ****ed by Thanos easily. Both dead in seconds. Leaving Surfer, Captain Marv-el, and Thanos. Thanos could handle Superman and WW. But adding in MM and Supergirl and Flash is over kill. He'd get knocked out or something. Surfer would beat GL but, not before someone else comes along and puts the finishing move on him.

Originally posted by I$suckalot
Flash is faster than anyone here. Plus he's knocked out Superman types before.

Strange is the biggest gun. I thing his eye, which in the past has leaped off Strange faster than light to intercept blitzers and attacks that Strange's reflexes aren't fast enough to block. If any of them try and blitz, they'll get intercepted and eaten by the Eye. Oh....and TIME STOP!

Oh, and since Strange can be protected by his teammates, you're essentially giving him prep time. Thatsa no good for the JLA.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Flash would NOT be the fastest in the fight. There is no speed force in the Marvel Universe. Flash would just be a regular guy in bright red spandex.

Dude you gotta change the players a bit here.. No speed force for Flash, and Thanos on Marvel team?? JLA doesn't stand a chance!!

I personally think Surfer and Strange have a chance to solo this. I mean seriously power cosmic plus magic! They might just need Hulk as well for some muscle, but thats all they need.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Dude you gotta change the players a bit here.. No speed force for Flash, and Thanos on Marvel team?? JLA doesn't stand a chance!!

I personally think Surfer and Strange have a chance to solo this. I mean seriously power cosmic plus magic! They might just need Hulk as well for some muscle, but thats all they need.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

I personally think Surfer and Strange have a chance to solo this. I mean seriously power cosmic plus magic! They might just need Hulk as well for some muscle, but thats all they need.

I assume you mean duo because by 2 people cannot solo anything. And if you did actually mean solo there is no way Surfer is soloing that JLA team. Classic Strange might though.

Thanos really makes this really unfair. You'd have to have,
Guy + Hal > Surfer
CM + WW + Zatanna > Strange
Superman + Orion > Marv-el
MM > Hulk
Supergirl > Namor

That's without adding Thanos and assuming those 3 could handle Strange. I feel sorry for DC.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
I assume you mean duo because by 2 people cannot solo anything.

Yes my bad, I meant Duo.

But not sure about this:

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
You'd have to have,
Guy + Hal > Surfer

Although Hal is one of the most powerful GL's, Im not convinced Guy is enough back up to soundly defeat Surfer.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Flash would NOT be the fastest in the fight. There is no speed force in the Marvel Universe. Flash would just be a regular guy in bright red spandex.

You didn't state that Flash wouldn't have his powers in the OP.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You didn't state that Flash wouldn't have his powers in the OP.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
The OP stated that the battle takes place in the Marvel Universe. There is no speed force in the Marvel Universe. Flash in the Marvel Universe would be as effective as the Infinite Gauntlet would be in the DC Universe. I assumed everyone already knew that. My bad.

Most battles on this forum, even if in one universe, take place under the assumption that each character can still use their powers fully.

More importantly: Why is he on the team, then?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Most battles on this forum, even if in one universe, take place under the assumption that each character can still use their powers fully.

More importantly: Why is he on the team, then?

Originally posted by 753
i thought the flash still had powers without the speed force, just lesser powers

Originally posted by Juntai
Jay does, not the others.