Rune King Thor has zero durability feats but I'm assuming his at bare minimum as durable as King Thor. Every single attack mounted against him was blocked automatically by the Rune Power. The fields have never reacted to anything as fast as Zoom unfortunately but it granted him total omniscience.
With this level perception and power level, I'd wager Zoom would be an utter non factor but moving fast takes precedent over common sense a times on here.
Originally posted by Uriel005Possibly, although it does come down to reaction time. Zoom is portrayed as more powerful than Flash.
King Thor and up Time Manips are enough IMO to handle Zoom who is a time manip based character unlike Flashes he has more limitations in terms of speed.
This is CIS on though.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusYou got it. 😉
Rune King Thor has zero durability feats but I'm assuming his at bare minimum as durable as King Thor. Every single attack mounted against him was blocked automatically by the Rune Power. The fields have never reacted to anything as fast as Zoom unfortunately but it granted him total omniscience.With this level perception and power level, I'd wager Zoom would be an utter non factor but moving fast takes precedent over common sense a times on here.
I stopped reading Flash at #8. What feats does Zoom he have besides running fast? And they better be some uber shit if he wants to get into a time manipulation battle with the most powerful Odin Force wielder we have ever seen. Stopping time, reversing it etc. should all be something his capable off. For the record, messing with Thor's age has failed twice.
So far, the best feat(s) Eobard has are stomping every single member of the Flash family (Barry, Wally, Bart, Max, etc.) at the same time, and manipulating the negative speed force in such a way that he created his own personification of death, by infusing said energies with Barry - he's also slapped around Hal, Booster, Superman, etc. Additionally, Zoom can seemingly use the NSF to place his consciousness in others, and manifest himself in that 'host body' with a thought. That ability, however, has yet to be completely defined.
...But I'm sure he'll rack up quite a bit more, once Flashpoint has concluded.
Originally posted by Galan007
So far, the best feat(s) Eobard has are stomping every single member of the Flash family (Barry, Wally, Bart, Max, etc.) at the same time, and manipulating the negative speed force in such a way that he created his own personification of death, by infusing said energies with Barry - he's also slapped around Hal, Booster, Superman, etc....But I'm sure he'll rack up quite a bit more, once Flashpoint has concluded.
Are you referring to the Reborn mini with the stomping of the Flash family? I also read the scene with the League. None of that even begins to support taking on this level of an Odin Force wielder in time manipulation. Or in a battle.
I'm not sure what you're referring to with the personification of death bit. Is this a recent development? Or are you summarizing what happened in Reborn in a impressive way?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt all comes down to the perception/reaction thing again. If Thor never gets the opportunity to tag Zoom, he cannot win, etc.
Are you referring to the Reborn mini with the stomping of the Flash family? I also read the scene with the League. None of that even begins to support taking on an Odin Force wielder in time manipulation. Or in a battle.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI was summarizing what happened in Reborn, exactly how it happened... Or did you think Barry was transformed into the Black Flash by accident?
I'm not sure what you're referring to with the personification of death bit. Do you have scans? Or are you summarizing what happened in Reborn in a impressive way?
Originally posted by Galan007
It all comes down to the perception/reaction thing again. If Thor never gets the opportunity to tag Zoom, he cannot win. Etc.
Assuming omniscience or the automatic defenses of the Runes doesn't counter act his speed, how would some space/time manipulation work?
Originally posted by Galan007
I was summarizing what happened in Reborn, exactly how it happened... Or did you think Barry was transformed into the Black Flash by accident?
No, I know what happened. He manipulated the Speed Force in some way to turn Barry into a version of Black Flash. Doesn't prove he can defeat Rune King Thor in time manipulation so I wasn't sure if there was a more recent development.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThis is essentially "Odin vs. Flash/Zoom" all over again... Except Odin has a -lot- more feats than RKT does.
Assuming omniscience or the automatic defenses of the Runes doesn't counter act his speed, how would some space/time manipulation work?
Anyhow, there's no reason to have the same debate.... Again. All opinions on the matter were stated multiple times in that thread.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNever said he could beat Thor in such a manner. You asked for Professor Zoom's more impressive feats, and I listed them. Nothing more, nothing less.
No, I know what happened. He manipulated the Speed Force in some way to turn Barry into a version of Black Flash. Doesn't prove he can defeat Rune King Thor in time manipulation so I wasn't sure if there was a more recent development.
Originally posted by Galan007
This is essentially "Odin vs. Flash/Zoom" all over again... Except Odin has a -lot- more feats than RKT does.Anyhow, there's no reason to have the same debate.... Again. All opinions on the matter were stated multiple times in that thread.
His constant omniscience and seemingly automatic defenses are a plus. I'd also be comfortable in arguing he could do anything Odin could.
Fine. Still think this shit is getting out of hand. Applying comic book physics outside of a comic book situation. Might as well start making threads against Celestials etc.
Originally posted by Galan007
Never said he could beat Thor in such a manner. You asked for Professor Zoom's more impressive feats, and I listed them. Nothing more, nothing less.
That's my bad then. Was referring to time manipulation. He hasn't done anything I haven't seen so far apparently.