Murder is it ever justified?

Can we ever see why someone would unlawfully kill someone else? Is murder ever justifiable?

I'd say that part of the connotation of murder is that it is unjustified.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'd say that part of the connotation of murder is that it is unjustified.

However if you killed someone because they had told you they were going to kill someone else and shown you the weapon, despite the fact they said they were not going to do it for a week. Would that be justified?

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
However if you killed someone because they had told you they were going to kill someone else and shown you the weapon, despite the fact they said they were not going to do it for a week. Would that be justified?

No, that's all speculation. You cant kill someone because all they did was "say" they were going to kill another person.

I think that if someone has proven that they want to harm/kill you it's ok.

I also think that it should be alright if like, a girl has been sexually abused by someone for years to finally kill him.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
However if you killed someone because they had told you they were going to kill someone else and shown you the weapon, despite the fact they said they were not going to do it for a week. Would that be justified?

Generally, no. There are lots of other options that end with no one dead.

Murder is for people who lack creativity. 😎

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Can we ever see why someone would unlawfully kill someone else? Is murder ever justifiable?

By definition murder is unjustified. If it is, it's no longer murder but killing, executing or death.

So, no.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'd say that part of the connotation of murder is that it is unjustified.

I argee as well and I think that if someone does murder they should get the chair for a punishment.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I argee as well and I think that if someone does murder they should get the chair for a punishment.

That will teach them the lesson of never doing it again.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
However if you killed someone because they had told you they were going to kill someone else and shown you the weapon, despite the fact they said they were not going to do it for a week. Would that be justified?

even if we assume that I am the only one who can do anything to stop the murder, wouldn't jumping the guy the next day and kidnapping him be a much preferable option?

the obvious answer otherwise being, call the police

I think there may be circumstances where something that would end up getting you convicted of murder could be moral.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think there may be circumstances where something that would end up getting you convicted of murder could be moral.

As do I. :-)

But if you kill someone to protect yourself or your loved one it isn't murder. Murder isn't "anytime you kill another person".

Like Robtard and Chaos said, in order for it to be murder, it has to be unjust. If you were justified in killing someone, it isn't murder.

Originally posted by TacDavey
But if you kill someone to protect yourself or your loved one it isn't murder. Murder isn't "anytime you kill another person".

Like Robtard and Chaos said, in order for it to be murder, it has to be unjust. If you were justified in killing someone, it isn't murder.

That's not what bardock and I are suggesting.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
That's not what bardock and I are suggesting.

Oh? So you are saying that it is possible for you to be justified in killing someone unjustly?

Originally posted by TacDavey
Oh? So you are saying that it is possible for you to be justified in killing someone unjustly?

I'm saying sometimes what the law considers unjustifiable, personal ethics might consider justifiable.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think there may be circumstances where something that would end up getting you convicted of murder could be moral.

Yeah, at some point you have to get into the difference between murder in the moral sense and in the legal sense.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
I'm saying sometimes what the law considers unjustifiable, personal ethics might consider justifiable.

So what you are really saying is that you believe the law considers some things murder that really aren't.

That doesn't make murder justified. It makes the law mistaken about what things fall under the category of murder.

Originally posted by TacDavey
So what you are really saying is that you believe the law considers some things murder that really aren't.

That doesn't make murder justified. It makes the law mistaken about what things fall under the category of murder.

No, that's not what i'm saying it might still be murder, but ethically or emotionally justifiable to me. It might be neither to you.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah, at some point you have to get into the difference between murder in the moral sense and in the legal sense.

Absolutely.