Grodd v Wolverine

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

feat speaks for it self.
1. http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2193/wolverine125willpowerta9.jpg

and.... has there been proof that current grodd HAS tk...? 😕

Originally posted by leonidas
and.... has there been proof that current grodd HAS tk...? 😕

I honestly don't recall if he's used it post crisis.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I honestly don't recall if he's used it post crisis.

that's sort of the impression i've had. i know in his more recent appearances he has NOT used it, but it was entirely possible i missed an appearance or an incident. without tk, i think this is pretty much up in the air....

I remember reading somewhere (second hand mind you, so I can't really verify this) that Grodd once used TK to manipulate matter on a molecular level.

But again, citation needed.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I remember reading somewhere (second hand mind you, so I can't really verify this) that Grodd once used TK to manipulate matter on a molecular level.

But again, citation needed.

i think he HAD the power at one time through some amp or other, but i don't think he still has it. scans showing differently would end it of course, otherwise i think we are forced to accept it is straight tp which might make things a little dicey for the ape.....

Originally posted by Harbinger
Lulz.

Originally posted by Mindset
What is this supposed to show, many people fight against tk, it's not like he was overpowering her.

Originally posted by chomperx9
eplain how im wrong ? Being able to heal from something does not mean you resistant against it or immune. if you were, would not need to heal.

Wait so how is Wolverine resisting tp from Phoenix not PIS? He resisted tp from Mesmoro who was amped by Phoenix?

Aren't there like loads of examples of Wolverine being mindcontrolled?

Originally posted by Deadline
Wait so how is Wolverine resisting tp from Phoenix not PIS? He resisted tp from Mesmoro who was amped by Phoenix?

Aren't there like loads of examples of Wolverine being mindcontrolled?

They are not through Telepathy, weapon x used machines, fake memory implants, triggers ect. In fact Wolverine vast majority of showings against telepathy via mind control has him no selling it.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
It was tk actually.

What you mentally resist Tk?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

He also blocked emma frost and cassandra nova amoung many others.

Didn't he get mindcontrolled by a loopy Emma Frost in Astonishing X-men?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

Yes he no selled mesmoro who was being amp by phoenix and I showed a scan of it.

and that sounds like PIS.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

They are not through Telepathy, weapon x used machines, fake memory implants, triggers ect. In fact Wolverine vast majority of showings against telepathy via mind control has him no selling it.

Not all the time, at any rate if you can resist the Phoenix and Mesmero machinery shouldn't work either.

You might be right but it depends on how powerful they are.

Originally posted by Deadline
What you mentally resist Tk?

Didn't he get mindcontrolled by a loopy Emma Frost in Astonishing X-men?

and that sounds like PIS.

Not all the time, at any rate if you can resist the Phoenix and Mesmero machinery shouldn't work either.

You might be right but it depends on how powerful they are.

She was no loop. But yes in astonishing is one of the few times in which his tp resistance was completely ignored. However the author wheldon stated he had no idea how to write wolverine or his abilities. So I not sure how much stock one should put into minority showing based off an author who stated he has no idea how to write the character. But do as you wish.

Machine and telepathy are not the same. They work differently. Trying to pass off one as the other is simply flawed logic. Espacially since Romulas more or less was creator of the weapon x project and implied he more or less created wolverine.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
You can think it pis all you want. He over an over agian no selled the top Telepaths out there.

I'm not sure about that though. A respect thread shows all his good showings.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

She was no loop. But yes in astonishing is one of the few times in which his tp resistance was completely ignored. However the author wheldon stated he had no idea how to write wolverine or his abilities. So I not sure how much stock one should put into minority showing based off an author who stated he has no idea how to write the character. But do as you wish.

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

Machine and telepathy are not the same. They work differently. Trying to pass off one as the other is simply flawed logic. Espacially since Romulas more or less was creator of the weapon x project and implied he more or less created wolverine.

Not really hes resisted telepathy and hypnotism. You don't think machines that use mind control won't have any similarities? It's like arguing that somebody who is resistant to fire won't be a resistant to a heat ray. They're both different but you can imagine that resistance to one could help with another.

I get what you're saying though.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Because you are wrong. There no explanation needed. You think Wolverine resistances to TP comes form him healing after he been mind raped. Which is stupid on so many level and straight up ignorant.

and when the F did I say I think his resistance to TP comes from healing ?

Originally posted by Deadline
I'm not sure about that though. A respect thread shows all his good showings.

Originally posted by Deadline
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Originally posted by Deadline
Not really hes resisted telepathy and hypnotism. You don't think machines that use mind control won't have any similarities? It's like arguing that somebody who is resistant to fire won't be a resistant to a heat ray. They're both different but you can imagine that resistance to one could help with another.

Originally posted by Deadline
I get what you're saying though.

Originally posted by chomperx9
Dude read posts 1st before quoting others. I was dissagreeing with the post from Style time saying he has a healing factor and was correcting him saying, that does not mean he is resistant against it.

and when the F did I say I think his resistance to TP comes from healing ?

your post seemed to imply it when you said "sure he can heal from mind rape"

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
You can think that all you want. Except that several of his highest TP showings are not even in the respect thread 😉

You want me to post the quote from the author? Yea I am sorry but I dont have the time nor the energy to search the web for a random quote from wheldon. But he most certainly has gone on record more then once stating he has no idea how to right wolverine. In fact I think he was against having him on the astonishing team to begin with.

Whatever. Just as I thought Whedon states here he's familiar with the X-men.

http://www.whedon.info/Joss-Whedon-Astonishing-X-Men,13652.html

Whedon admits that he wasn’t quite as hip to every X-Men nuance from the past few decades. A long-time fan, he wandered away from the X-Men around the time of the "Inferno" story arc.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

except there not the same.

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You're missing the point. I didn't say they were the same, the point is you can argue they're related.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
dude except thats not what he ment. honest are you really not able to see that he was making fun of your lack of comic knolwedge? He was not saying that wolverine healing factor gives him tp resistance. He was making fun of the fact you had no idea he had tp resistance.

your post seemed to imply it when you said "sure he can heal from mind rape"

Originally posted by Deadline

You're missing the point. I didn't say they were the same, the point is you can argue they're related.

TP does not operate via taking portion of being physical brain apart. It done mentally. The difference is very clearlly evident.

also how is a demon having your body while your in limbo the same has telepathy?

How is some one controlling you via your soul, the same as telepathy?

How is body being controll via thousands of demons fighting you in your own body the same as telepathy?

I dont think you get it. they not similar nor comparable to one another.