Golden Superman Prime vs The Molecule Man

Originally posted by Uriel005
I believe that the intention of writers when dealing with Golden Prime was representative as a god of the absolute good that superman has generally represented. His decisions to generally not to interfere with the workings of the universe sans his power granting was his idea of not taking a sledgehammer to open heart surgery. I think that Golden Prime could have quite honestly did everything all the other heroes did on his own but came to realize that his interference was not necessarily a positive one due to the fact that a dependence would be placed on him for the continued existence of the universe and as such refused to use his powers until it became an absolute necessity despite the fact that through giving into more selfish desires he could have had Lois and Krypton back on a whim.

Golden Prime is the epitome of what superman strove for. Simply by sitting on the sideline he allowed the superman dynasty and the various heroes to reach potentials they would not have been able to reach had he babied them through everything. He accomplished his mission of making the peoples of the universe grow as individuals without directly exerting his will which in my book would be the ultimate victory for Supes.

👆 I always thought he became the supreme being of his universe. This is why he says Welcome to my Universe.

Originally posted by Galan007
Golden Prime had not yet returned to earth when the Superman Dynasty gained Imp-esque abilities. Therefore, we cannot assume he has them (needing an Imps help to resurrect Lois is proof enough of that.)

Golden Super Man empowers all the others (including those with 5D Imp abilities). Therefore he must have Imp powers himself or else it wouldn't make sense.

Originally posted by BullwinkleMoose
Golden Super Man empowers all the others (including those with 5D Imp abilities). Therefore he must have Imp powers himself or else it wouldn't make sense.

No. They got the 5D powers after Superman went into the sun. Someone from Supermans bloodline got children with an 5D imp, and that's why the new Generation has 5D powers while Superman Prime has not.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No. They got the 5D powers after Superman went into the sun. Someone from Supermans bloodline got children with an 5D imp, and that's why the new Generation has 5D powers while Superman Prime has not.

Originally posted by Uriel005
wouldnt make any sense if he wasn't more powerful than the imp ability supermen. 5D beings have funky perceptions IMO and considering they considered Golden Prime superior I'd have to say that he has some kind of ace that puts him over 5d Imps.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I never said he isn't more powerful. IMO he is beyond Galactus but that's just my opinion. He has just no imp powers, though he is more powerful then them, at least imo.

Originally posted by Uriel005
wouldnt make any sense if he wasn't more powerful than the imp ability supermen. 5D beings have funky perceptions IMO and considering they considered Golden Prime superior I'd have to say that he has some kind of ace that puts him over 5d Imps.

The Dynasty was only endowed with 10 imp-like senses when Superman of the 67th century married the imp Queen - and the Supermen thereafter certainly didn't become equal to imps just by gaining 10 new senses. srsly

Owen in both

Prime punches him into hell.

Originally posted by Galan007
Eh, it seems like you are trying to imply that the members of the Superman Dynasty are = 5th dimensional imps. That couldn't be more incorrect.

The Dynasty was only endowed with 10 imp-like senses when Superman of the 67th century married the imp Queen - and the Supermen thereafter certainly didn't become equal to imps just by gaining 10 new senses. srsly

Originally posted by Uriel005
not exactly equal but certainly the senses help, considering imp abilities to an extent come from their more advanced senses and ability to perceive the universe IIRC from the techno imp stand point (not mystical nonsense).

Originally posted by Galan007
The senses helped make the Supermen more powerful. They didn't boost their powers to imp-level, though.

Originally posted by Uriel005
I didn't mean to imply that they were imp level just that the imp senses made them that much more uber and they were conceding to Golden Prime hands down. I'd say that he should have been at least imp level.

Originally posted by Uriel005
I believe that the intention of writers when dealing with Golden Prime was representative as a god of the absolute good that superman has generally represented. His decisions to generally not to interfere with the workings of the universe sans his power granting was his idea of not taking a sledgehammer to open heart surgery. I think that Golden Prime could have quite honestly did everything all the other heroes did on his own but came to realize that his interference was not necessarily a positive one due to the fact that a dependence would be placed on him for the continued existence of the universe and as such refused to use his powers until it became an absolute necessity despite the fact that through giving into more selfish desires he could have had Lois and Krypton back on a whim.

Golden Prime is the epitome of what superman strove for. Simply by sitting on the sideline he allowed the superman dynasty and the various heroes to reach potentials they would not have been able to reach had he babied them through everything. He accomplished his mission of making the peoples of the universe grow as individuals without directly exerting his will which in my book would be the ultimate victory for Supes.

Originally posted by 753
uhuh, but so do you feel he was an abstract level being? how would you compare him to galactus for instance?