Originally posted by Galan007
Potentially, as in "who would be more powerful if they realized the true extent of their powers"?Definitely Zoom. Time manipulation trumps space manipulation.
How does it trump space? Runner can simply make the distance of any movement or attacks by Zoom always = 0. Meaning he could make Zoom never move, literally, because movement or action itself requires distance. Doesn't matter how much time you have, if your distance is = 0, your time will always = 0.
Originally posted by vince_sliceBut he has to manipulate the gem to do so. If time is stopped and he can't manipulate the gem then the gem is worthless...
How does it trump space? Runner can simply make the distance of any movement or attacks by Zoom always = 0. Meaning he could make Zoom never move, literally, because movement or action itself requires distance. Doesn't matter how much time you have, if your distance is = 0, your time will always = 0.
Originally posted by Uriel005
But he has to manipulate the gem to do so. If time is stopped and he can't manipulate the gem then the gem is worthless...
Then it would depend on who has the faster trigger hand. Also it would be unfair to assume Zoom powers are already activated before the battle even started.
Originally posted by Prep-ManAssuming he is using it to its fullest potential couldn't Runner just make Zoom run through an endless loop? Like put two portals 1 nanometer away form each other so when he starts running he just runs through the same place over and over and cannot escape?
But what? Zoom would just be as fast, IMO.
Thats assuming its to fullest potential which I don't see happening though.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
But what? Zoom would just be as fast, IMO.
Sorry but that's not how speed works.
Zoom's speed is based on his ability to control his time.
E.g., Speed = Distance/Time (Zoom controls the bolded part)
If Distance = 1 meter, and Zoom manipulates time to the point where Time = 0.0000000001 seconds, then Speed = 1/0.000000001
Therefore his Speed = 10000000000 meters per second (very fast).
He could go faster the closer he manipulates his Time closer to 0.
But the main problem for Zoom is Runner controls the other variable, which is Distance.
Speed = Distance/Time (Runner controls the bolded part).
If Runner makes Distance = 0 for Zoom, no matter how much he manipulates Time, Zoom's Speed will always = 0.
E.g., Speed = 0/0.00000000000000000000000000000000001
0 divided by anything always = 0.
Doesn't matter how much Zoom manipulates his time, if Distance = 0; then Speed will always be = 0. Zoom will be frozen, literally, he can't move, not even his molecules will be able to move and hence have an effect on anything at all. He will literally be frozen, which is ironic.
Originally posted by vince_slice
Sorry but that's not how speed works.Zoom's speed is based on his ability to control his time.
E.g., Speed = Distance/[b]Time
(Zoom controls the bolded part)If Distance = 1 meter, and Zoom manipulates time to the point where Time = 0.0000000001 seconds, then Speed = 1/0.000000001
Therefore his Speed = 10000000000 meters per second (very fast).
He could go faster the closer he manipulates his Time closer to 0.
But the main problem for Zoom is Runner controls the other variable, which is Distance.
Speed = Distance/Time (Runner controls the bolded part).
If Runner makes Distance = 0 for Zoom, no matter how much he manipulates Time, Zoom's Speed will always = 0.
E.g., Speed = 0/0.00000000000000000000000000000000001
0 divided by anything always = 0.
Doesn't matter how much Zoom manipulates his time, if Distance = 0; then Speed will always be = 0. Zoom will be frozen, literally, he can't move, not even his molecules will be able to move and hence have an effect on anything at all. He will literally be frozen, which is ironic. [/B]
Interesting.
Well I say this. You assume several things:
1. Runner can make the distance 0 and Zoom can't make the time 0.
2. Runner is smart enough and as shown the ability to masterfully manipulate the gem in such a fashion you are naming.
3. That runner will activate the gem before Zoom can get to him.
If it takes 1 microsecond for runner to activate the gem then Zoom would get to him before since that is an lifetime for Zoom.
Originally posted by h1a8
Interesting.
Well I say this. You assume several things:
1. Runner can make the distance 0 and Zoom can't make the time 0.
2. Runner is smart enough and as shown the ability to masterfully manipulate the gem in such a fashion you are naming.
3. That runner will activate the gem before Zoom can get to him.
If it takes 1 microsecond for runner to activate the gem then Zoom would get to him before since that is an lifetime for Zoom.
1. If Zoom makes Time = 0? Try inputting that into the formula for Speed and see the result.
Formula for speed is:
Speed = Distance/Time.
Tell me what happens when you divide a number by zero? In fact try dividing any number by zero and see the result.
2. Read the original OP, it says were debating about which power has more potential. So Runner using the space gem at its full potential/masterfully is relevant.
3. Runner is no slouch in the speed department. It all comes down to a quick draw basically. Like I said, Zoom's speed/reaction comes from his ability to control his own time. It'd be unfair to assume is powers are activated before the match begins.