I really don't see how Stryker doesn't just shove a nightstick up Redfield's ass and pull it out out from his throat. It's not like Chris ever took on his toughest enemies straight-up without even one weapon, and the only times he did like against Wesker, he got *****'d 9 times out of 10. Not to mention Stryker has at least one pretty good damage soak in MK9's story mode when he was flung from the streets into the subway by Ermac and got up without much damage iirc.
As for their voice actors, I thought that was Roger Craig Smith doing Stryker's voice too at first, but none of the sources say so; They all cite Matthew Mercer (who also voiced Fei Long, but that's the only other fighting game character I can think of).
You may perhaps have a point there about the times when Chris was unarmed, but fact is, Chris and Stryker are both allowed their guns/pistols in this thread, and being the ex-marksman Chris is, he'd shoot Stryker down before he could ever lay a baton on him. 😐 Chris has more than plenty of good damage soaks too when you take his Wesker encounters and such into consideration..
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeBut fact Wesker has been shown to hold back is also taken to consideration otherwise he would did to Chris like he did to that old man back in the mansion.
You may perhaps have a point there about the times when Chris was unarmed, but fact is, Chris and Stryker are both allowed their guns/pistols in this thread, and being the ex-marksman Chris is, he'd shoot Stryker down before he could ever lay a baton on him. 😐 Chris has more than plenty of good damage soaks too when you take his Wesker encounters and such into consideration..
We don't know how much force he was applying on Chris and Sheeva, however the fact they still took is quite impressive.
I say Chris takes this on the virtue of strength.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
You may perhaps have a point there about the times when Chris was unarmed, but fact is, Chris and Stryker are both allowed their guns/pistols in this thread, and being the ex-marksman Chris is, he'd shoot Stryker down before he could ever lay a baton on him. 😐 Chris has more than plenty of good damage soaks too when you take his Wesker encounters and such into consideration..
Forgive me if I'm putting words in your mouth, but you're saying that like Stryker either has no guns or that he's shite with them. Either way that's blatantly false. It may not have been on-screen, but this is the same Stryker who singlehandedly took out an entire terrorist group in what was basically one fell swoop; the only reason Chris ever did such things against the supernatural was usually by virtue of plot device or just the stuff laying around (ie, the turrets and missiles against Irving or the satellite laser against Alexia). Even in regads to the full spectrum for both characters, Chris' chances for victory go no further than in a potential firefight; no amount of boulders puts Chris' h2h skills on the level of MK bottom-feeders.
And the fact is that Wesker never even took Chris seriously until the end of RE5, being the only time he fought him with an immediate killing intent, as opposed to just casually manhandling him before finally trying to finish him off i.e. the fight in Spencer's mansion. To that end, virtually every scene of Chris taking a hit from him is just short of moot.
Basically, I don't see how Stryker can't just do the same things Chris can do, but better. MK fighters are more or less inherently already above peak human, and although Stryker's one of few with no superpowers, it didn't seem to pose that much of a problem against the likes of Mileena, Kintaro, or Ermac, all of whom, collectively at least, had more or less all the same powers Wekser has to some level.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Quiet you. uhuh
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Wait, how can you say it's still impressive even though you don't know how much force Wesker was applying?
Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
Forgive me if I'm putting words in your mouth, but you're saying that like Stryker either has no guns or that he's shite with them. Either way that's blatantly false.
As for most of that other stuff mentioned, fair enough. I don't recall Chris using a satellite laser against Alexia though. Did you mean Excella?
Bah, Mileena and Kintaro didn't even have any feats, aside from Kintaro burning Kabal's face, which the same could've happened to Stryker if he had chose to attack him instead in that cutscene. Point made with Ermac though.
I'm not just talking about the end of RE5, but all the earlier encounters with superhuman Wesker too, including Code Veronica, which back then Chris had no advantage over him, or in the Spencer Estate.
edit: Also, if Ermac could telekinetically push Stryker all the way to a subway station, why couldn't he have just used his TK to rip his arms off like he did Jax's? I think it can perhaps be argued that Ermac was holding back some as well, or that he wasn't using the full extent of his TK against Stryker in that scene..
If you followed the MK9 thread like you seem to do the games versus forum, then you would know that he's played it...
Elaborate on that first statement.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I'm not just talking about the end of RE5, but all the earlier encounters with superhuman Wesker too, including Code Veronica, which back then Chris had no advantage over him, or in the Spencer Estate.
You can say Chris was lucky in some of those other times. Like the last encounter with Wesker before RE5, Wesker would have killed Chris had Jill not have interrupted him.