Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Oh wait you meant She-Hulk was amped.. Well anyway Classic IM did one shot regular she-hulk, and was even worried he hit her too hard.. But the fight was literally just that.. One shot of his repulsor at point blank range.Did he really go toe to toe with Thor and Sentry.. Iv not actually read any Extremis Iron Man stories so cant say.. But definetely pre-extremis Iron Man seemed to have a considerable downgrade to his 80's days.
Has Extremis Iron man got any considerable strength feats?? Anything like splitting an island in half, destroying a land mass the size of manhattan by just flying into it, towing sevral huge ships simultaneously???
Yes, she was. And Tony didn't even need to resort to repulsor blank at point blank, one flying punch put her down 😎
"Toe to toe" with Sentry - no... but he did well and won via a plot device in the end.
Thor was enraged because he thought Stark betrayed him. Iron Man was holding back and trying to reason with him. Both were affected by Diablo's gas.
Depends on the suit methinks. There are some pre-Extremis armors that were impressive, one or two even were able to wreck Namor underwater...
Extremis focused more on speed and reflexes. Maybe we'll get some decent strength feats from Extremis+/Bleeding Edge.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I thought Extremis Iron Man got a severe beatdown by Thor.
Odinforce Thor. And I'm talking about Extremis Plus anyway.
The iron man/ she hulk... Back when she hulk tried to punch the silver surfer and hurt her own hand in the process instead and norton dint flinch....
Before she went and upped her strength by increasing her human strength?.... Yah...
When Tony went against sentry it lasted like six panels. Tony he raced away for three panels. Sentry decides to go after Tony in like panel 4 and by panel 6 he had Tony laid out... Tony survived only because he later hacked cloc... Whig messed with bobs mind... Way to leave out just about everything and take it all out of context...
Originally posted by rotiart
When Tony went against sentry it lasted like six panels. Tony he raced away for three panels. Sentry decides to go after Tony in like panel 4 and by panel 6 he had Tony laid out... Tony survived only because he later hacked cloc... Whig messed with bobs mind... Way to leave out just about everything and take it all out of context...
I said that Tony tangled with him, which he did, and that he won via a plot device (Cloc).
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thor was enraged because he thought Stark betrayed him. Iron Man was holding back and trying to reason with him. Both were affected by Diablo's gas.
IIRC, Stark was hesitant in the first panel but began attacking Thor and was pissed as well. He was also getting beaten down as I remember. Still, that's the best he has done against Thor in like, ever.
Thor is still >>>> Iron Man, even the current version. Points to Mangog. He has a habit of limiting himself against opponents unless shit is really hitting the fan.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Odinforce Thor. And I'm talking about Extremis Plus anyway.
For what it's worth, I believe JMS either intended that to be: (a) Classic Thor or (b) A Thor who was operating at classic levels. That's the only logical conclusion I can come to.
He performed about as well as one would expect against a non holding back Thor. He has always been noticeably inferior.
in the past, hulk NEVER owned IM. classic IM ko'd classic hulk, in fact. he stalemated him in that stupid hulk-armor.
this is a classic match up. tony could slug it out for a while but he's certainly not winning it that way. he does have a huge variety of options though. i'd say if he's smart, and uses all his weaponry he'd take this more often than not. assuming standard, non-wwh. if hulk is still currently at that level of strength it would be tough for tony.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
IIRC, Stark was hesitant in the first panel but began attacking Thor and was pissed as well. He was also getting beaten down as I remember. Still, that's the best he has done against Thor in like, ever.
Exactly my point.
He shrugged off Thor's blast and his hammer strike, then he got pissed. Prior to that he was asking him what HE has done to him.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor is still >>>> Iron Man, even the current version. Points to Mangog. He has a habit of limiting himself against opponents unless shit is really hitting the fan.
He is.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
For what it's worth, I believe JMS either intended that to be: (a) Classic Thor or (b) A Thor who was operating at classic levels. That's the only logical conclusion I can come to.He performed about as well as one would expect against a non holding back Thor. He has always been noticeably inferior.
I know, I read the dialogue... "you've been working out?/no, the only difference is I'm not holding back this time". Thing is, Straczynski came up later with that Bor issue and we saw how much OF amped his durability. So it can be easily argued that's how he no-sold repulsor blasts.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Exactly my point.He shrugged off Thor's blast and his hammer strike, then he got pissed. Prior to that he was asking him what HE has done to him.
It was definitely a good showing for stark but if Thor cut loose, I'd wager on it being #3 all over again.
What's your definition of shrug off? I don't remember him being visibly damaged but I'm pretty certain he was getting knocked around and was loosing. IIRC, Iron Man stopped questioning Thor after like the first panel and even immediately attacked Thor.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He is.
Then we're on the same page.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I know, I read the dialogue... "you've been working out?/no, the only difference is I'm not holding back this time". Thing is, Straczynski came up later with that Bor issue and we saw how much OF amped his durability. So it can be easily argued that's how he no-sold repulsor blasts.
I don't see why you'd need to. Thor has been unharmed every single time his repulsors have struck him in the past.
Most probable in-continuity reason: Thor was not using the Odin Force to augment his abilities against Stark.
Most probable out-of-continuity -i.e. the real- reason: JMS did not intend Thor to return with the Odin Force and it was reintroduced in the second arc.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It was definitely a great showing for stark but if Thor cut loose, I'd wager on it being #3 all over again.What's your definition of shrug off?
Meant that Tony withstood the attacks, not that he stood here and tanked them, of course. Stark was clearly being knocked around on that page.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Then we're on the same page.
Aye.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't see why you'd need to. Thor has been unharmed every single time his repulsors have struck him in the past.Most probable in-continuity reason: Thor was not using the Odin Force to augment his abilities against Stark.
Most probable out-of-continuity -i.e. the real- reason: JMS did not intend Thor to return with the Odin Force and it was reintroduced in the second arc.
Every single time? I could swear I've seen him in classic red and gold armor shooting Thor in the head with *some* effect at least. I think it was at point blank, though. Anyway, Thor was never even pushed by repulsors or anything? Against Extremis repulsors he didn't even budge.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Every single time? I could swear I've seen him in classic red and gold armor shooting Thor in the head with *some* effect at least. I think it was at point blank, though. Anyway, Thor was never even pushed by repulsors or anything? Against Extremis repulsors he didn't even budge.
Pretty much. At least as far as I've seen. This is probably the most visible effect they've ever had against Thor -who was mind controlled- and it barely moved him:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsDraxIronManWaspCap3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsDraxIronManWaspCap4.jpg
If Thor stands his ground, tanking it without being taken off his feet is well within the realm of possibility.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Oh wait you meant She-Hulk was amped.. Well anyway Classic IM did one shot regular she-hulk, and was even worried he hit her too hard.. But the fight was literally just that.. One shot of his repulsor at point blank range.Did he really go toe to toe with Thor and Sentry.. Iv not actually read any Extremis Iron Man stories so cant say.. But definetely pre-extremis Iron Man seemed to have a considerable downgrade to his 80's days.
Has Extremis Iron man got any considerable strength feats?? Anything like splitting an island in half, destroying a land mass the size of manhattan by just flying into it, towing sevral huge ships simultaneously???
He got beaten the snot out of by Thor and would have by Sentry except he got cloc to give Sentry a mini breakdown.
Originally posted by MetalIsDead
Hey Rage, I know this is kinda offtopic, but is there any reason on why Thor is so powerful nowadays? he doesn't have the Odinpower anymore it seems... did he got an upgrade or something?
He isn't more powerful than he was back in the day. And no, he hasn't received any upgrade.
Originally posted by rotiart
The needle intended for hulk but used on she hulk completely cleaned her DNA of all gamma radiation. She was from then on Jen Walters and had no way to go back to changing to hulk. So in she hulk they introduced this portal that said if you enter 616 while your dopple is here your body gains that dopples attributes... Another earths powerless Jen came To 616 using that portal and gained she hulks powers...(this alternate Jen is the same that slept with juggernaught and nit 616) Then she hulk lost her powers. When they realized that dopple was still in this universe jenn used the portal and gained her dopples attributes... Thus returning her powers...If those nanotech had been used on hulk he would have been dead
Yup Ironman wins this fight 10/10.
Add a satellite beam and force fields and it's toooo easy.
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