Originally posted by Tyron fo real
ripping ares in half is pathetic his durability sucks, terrax is not a big deal and i can show you thor owning his ass, prime on the other hand broke the freakin phantom zone dimension with punches that alone is putting him above sentry, prime went up against most heroes of DC universe and puncked them like nothing same as superman same as martial manhunter and that suit you are talking about just kept him from getting weaken by the red sun thats it , prime is a monster and i really hope you are not trying to debate that the pathetic sentry can stand to him either speed wise or strength wiseas for speed... prime speedblitzing the flashes together is >>>>>>>>> anything sentry will ever do
When did Prime break the phantom zone? ....... What is 'Martial' Manhunter? Uh, Prime never speed blitzed the Flashes. What is 'puncked'?
Re: Void vs Superboy prime
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Scen 1: Superboy prime vs Void
Scen 2: Guardian amped superboy prime vs Void
Scen 3: Time trapper prime vs Void (For the sake of arguement all time trapper feats are applicable to prime)george
The only scenario the Void even has a remote chance is #1. SBP destroys him in the other two.
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Now you say, Prime will rip him in half; however, show me a non guardian amped prime wielding the kind of strength needed to rip a high herald level being in half.
You must be sorely uninformed about Prime, but there was this character Monarch which he ripped in half. A character which trashed several heralds btw.
Also, I call bullsh_t in the Molecule Man powers, show me a feat when he mimics an energy signature before you start suggesting he'll shoot red sun radiation.
Originally posted by Bentley
You must be sorely uninformed about Prime, but there was this character Monarch which he ripped in half. A character which trashed several heralds btw.Also, I call bullsh_t in the Molecule Man powers, show me a feat when he mimics an energy signature before you start suggesting he'll shoot red sun radiation.
Monarchs containment suit breach is not ripping someone in half.
Molecule man can make any particle, therefore photons of the right em wavelength are not beyond him and shouldn't be beyond void.
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Monarchs containment suit breach is not ripping someone in half.
Molecule man can make any particle, therefore photons of the right em wavelength are not beyond him and shouldn't be beyond void.
Except we never see Void/Sentry/Voidtry/etc. ever actually use Matter Manipulation on panel except for pulling himself back together after being dispersed.
Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Except we never see Void/Sentry/Voidtry/etc. ever actually use Matter Manipulation on panel except for pulling himself back together after being dispersed.
Well, when he defeated MM we did.
Originally posted by Wimjet
key word you used was shouldnt
True it's hypothetical, that said isn't anything with a powerset like that.
Prime has never been out muscled i'll grant you, but even though he "always" get's out. We know Sentry can do dimensional travel from when Genis dropped him in a different one and he had to find his way out. Whose to say he can't take Prime into one and leave him.
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Monarchs containment suit breach is not ripping someone in half.
Molecule man can make any particle, therefore photons of the right em wavelength are not beyond him and shouldn't be beyond void.
Look, Monarch stomped heralds without breaking the suit, that speaks highly of his power and durability.
Also, we don't invent feats for characters because we feel like they could do something. I cannot pick a rookie GL and use Hal's feats, even if their powerset are the same. We aren't even sure if Void has actual matter manipulation powers, but even if he had them, we'd need feats to pull anything like that.
Originally posted by Bentley
Look, Monarch stomped heralds without breaking the suit, that speaks highly of his power and durability.Also, we don't invent feats for characters because we feel like they could do something. I cannot pick a rookie GL and use Hal's feats, even if their powerset are the same. We aren't even sure if Void has actual matter manipulation powers, but even if he had them, we'd need feats to pull anything like that.
Ahh it's no doubt guardian amped prime was above most heralds; but, he only tore the Armour, Monarchs own power did the rest, a bit like what happened to the alternate Captain Atom in Kingdom come only on a larger scale.
Ahh, well voidtry had matter manip powers as he was able to change his form etc so easily in Avengers, therefore he can transmute.... Voidtry had light powers anyway so why not do a red star on him? Afterall he has a million exploding ones to use...
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Ahh it's no doubt guardian amped prime was above most heralds; but, he only tore the Armour, Monarchs own power did the rest, a bit like what happened to the alternate Captain Atom in Kingdom come only on a larger scale.Ahh, well voidtry had matter manip powers as he was able to change his form etc so easily in Avengers, therefore he can transmute.... Voidtry had light powers anyway so why not do a red star on him? Afterall he has a million exploding ones to use...
SMP is so much more than void..that avengers squad that battled void was nothing SAVE thor, and the norn stones boost was too ambiguous, ares has shite durability, and lokis "death" was suicide...all in all for all his supposed "power" he was only a local threat, he showed zero matter manip feats except his own molecular control which is far from transmutation
whereas prime is so much more
Originally posted by Sin I AM
SMP is so much more than void..that avengers squad that battled void was nothing SAVE thor, and the norn stones boost was too ambiguous, ares has shite durability, and lokis "death" was suicide...all in all for all his supposed "power" he was only a local threat, he showed zero matter manip feats except his own molecular control which is far from transmutationwhereas prime is so much more
The first time the avengers battled Void in New Avengers 'Sentry' arc he battled lots more high level powers and beat them all.